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Dimensions to Wall Core Face in "Course" view - appears to go to nothing

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Message 1 of 18
johnw
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Dimensions to Wall Core Face in "Course" view - appears to go to nothing

When creating construction documents, our plans need to print in "Course View". My dimensions are going to "Face of Core" so when I print out my plans it appears the dimension extension lines are going to nothing (see attached image). This obviously is unacceptable, but I do need to dimension to the face of core and not the finish materials. Has anyone figured out a way to solve this problem (without removing the finishes from the wall type)?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

John

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Message 2 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: johnw

You could go into your view template and change only the walls detail level from By View to Medium. This would allow you to keep your course standards for everything else and still show the wall structure needed for dimensions. Maybe this would be an acceptable compromise?

Message 3 of 18
johnw
in reply to: Anonymous

The problem with that would be I would still show too many lines at the outer edge of the wall and on 11x17 paper at 1/8" scale, the exterior wall would be extremely dark.

 

Is there any way to change the exterior sheathing and exterior finish lines to be "invisible" in plan view and show the "Core Line" in plan view?

Message 4 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: johnw

As far as I'm aware there's no way to control walls to that level. You're pretty much stuck with what they give you. Perhaps someone else has another work-around to get what you're looking for.

Message 5 of 18
ToanDN
in reply to: johnw

Take a look at the screencast below.  Hopefully it will give you an idea how to deal with your issue.

 

 

Message 6 of 18
johnw
in reply to: ToanDN

After checking "parts" , filter by material, and going to "not equals to"... there is no materials listed in the fly out... why would that be?

Message 7 of 18
ToanDN
in reply to: johnw

You need to assign the wall core layer with some material, for example [Metal Stud Layer].  Then set the filter for Parts material Not equal to that material.

 

 

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Message 8 of 18
johnw
in reply to: ToanDN

My wall core is assigned a material - concrete masonry unit. (see attached png file). Not sure what to do here... Not an expert at Revit by no means.

 

Message 9 of 18
ToanDN
in reply to: johnw

Did you create Parts from your Walls?
Message 10 of 18
johnw
in reply to: ToanDN

Not sure what you mean. I never heard of "parts" before. I used an ootb base wall and then modified it to meet my needs.
Message 11 of 18
ToanDN
in reply to: johnw

That's okay.  I guess the screencast wasn't making it clear enough.

 

You need to select the walls, and use the Create Parts tool to do it.

 

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Message 12 of 18
johnw
in reply to: ToanDN

Oh I see now.

I did that, and followed your instructions. It seems to work somewhat but the only line that disappeared was the furring. The exterior stucco line and interior drywall line is still visible. The interior side isn't the issue. It's the stucco line on the exterior that needs to go away.

I don't think exploding these walls into parts is going to be the best thing in the long run. If I have to manipulate walls in the future is seems it will be a big undertaking to deal with the "pieces" of the walls.

Thanks for your help with this by the way... I appreciate you taking time to assist me...
Message 13 of 18
ToanDN
in reply to: johnw

I think you misunderstood the Create Parts tool.  It does not explode the wall to pieces.  The wall still intact as one piece when your View is set to Show Originals.  Parts only show when the View is set to Show Parts.

 

Back to the problem with why only the furring disappears, I am going to post another screencast.  If you follow it carefully then CMU core is the only part should show.  If it still doesn't work, you can post a file so I can look at.

 

 

Message 14 of 18
johnw
in reply to: ToanDN

Exterior side of exterior wall works as you've suggested!

 

Only issues i have now are on the interior side of the exterior wall - furring and gyp board space not showing and interior walls have a gap when attaching to exterior wall. See attached image.

 

Also, it appears in course mode my interior dimensions to core face also show the little gap between gyp board and non-visible core line.

 

 

Message 15 of 18
ToanDN
in reply to: johnw


@Anonymous wrote:

Exterior side of exterior wall works as you've suggested!

 

Only issues i have now are on the interior side of the exterior wall - furring and gyp board space not showing and interior walls have a gap when attaching to exterior wall. See attached image.

 

Also, it appears in course mode my interior dimensions to core face also show the little gap between gyp board and non-visible core line.

 

 


Interior walls have a gap when attaching to exterior wall: the core of the interior wall does not extend to the core of the exterior wall.  You need go to the view showing original walls and grip edit the end of the interior wall to meet the core of the exterior wall.  Turn on Fine or Medium level of detail so it is clear while doing so.

 

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Add the interior wall core material (Metal Stud Layer?) to the filter list so it works for the interior walls as well.  Uncheck the visible box of this filter from your view literally means: Turn off all Parts that do not have the material equal to CMU and Metal Stud Layer. 

 

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Message 16 of 18
MichaelBussiere2
in reply to: johnw

Thank you for your post.  It looks like you are trying to leverage dimensions within the Revit software, and are seeing some discrepancies in your dimensioning ability to faces and detail level.  In this case I would agree with @ToanDN with suggestions to date.  In addition to this, I have included some helpful information on dimensioning within Revit for reference as you become more acquainted with this feature within Revit.  If the issue is still persisting after applying the steps above from @ToanDN, please reply back with a copy of the model in question for review in the community.  Thank you and we look forward to your reply.

 

Revit Linear Dimensions: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/EN...

 

Modifying Dimensions: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/EN...

 

Dimensioning to Core Layer: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-lt/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2017/ENU/Revi...

 



Michael Bussiere II
Support Specialist
Product Support
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 17 of 18
theresatlninhMWWN4
in reply to: ToanDN

How do I set the view to bring it back to original, so I can modify the wall as I needed.  

Thank you,

Message 18 of 18
scott_hayesGKKY2
in reply to: johnw

There is it's called Archicad! you can choose the core only option on any wall assembly for dimensioning and it references outside of core! Why hasn't  Revit not figured this out? I just started to learn Revit after years of Archicad and the dimensioning is driving me nuts, also selection references to centerline of walls is stupid as a default? Columns ok, but I'm trying to layout my buildings in wood light framing and defaulting to center's isn't math any framer wants to d! Right? Granted I'm totally new with Revit and must be missing something, but I'm going with the default Architectural template? Structural template-you still go to face off concrete or wood studs, I'm not doing post and beam construction where centerlines would be relevant.   All this said I'm seeing the same issues

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