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Dimensions questions

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georgehobel
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Dimensions questions

When I place dimensions for framing of walls in a residential structure, I typically go to the center of the wall, except and the end of the building where I will pull from the corner, or outside edge of the wall.  In Revit, we place a wall that already has sheathing, and brick veneer.  I would like to place my dimensions from the outside edge of the wood stud framing, not the center of the wall...and not the outside of the brick.  How can I do this? 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: georgehobel

-Use Tab key when placing the dimension until it finds the face of stud.

- FWIW--From my +30 yrs experience,

Dimensions to centerline of wall are really not good. The layout guys in the field want one face of stud, snap a chalkline on the deck and lay the stud and shoot it into the deck. In wood construction this is the lead carpenter.

In commercial metal stud work this is the drywall/ cold form metal stud installer.

In healthcare jobs we use face of drywall/finish and this makes the layout guys figure out where the stud falls.

But they are a different breed and are used to this on complex hospital projects.

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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georgehobel
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

Interesting... Ive been in the field building for 30 years, mostly residential, and most of the time, our plans were dimensioned to the center of wall. except at corners and outside walls...

 

So tabbing through the rotation while positioning dimensions will find the face of stud... I'll have to try that...

thank you

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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loboarch
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

And I will add a 3rd option that was used in our office when I was working as an Architect.

 

We always dimensioned to both sides of the wall with nominal dimensions. The construction folks would snap 2 lines and then just get the track in between them.

 

Personally I always thought that was a bit weird, but that is how the office did it and I never had any field issues with it or any contractors question it. I know there have been threads here in the past that this issue became a religious argument. At the end of the day, Revit supports all of the "standards" mentioned. Using the tab key as mentioned will get you to the point in the wall you want to dimension to.  



Jeff Hanson
Principal Content Experience Designer
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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: loboarch

Maybe your boss back then was a stock holder in the company that sells the blue chalk line tool? Smiley (zwinkernd)

Believe it or not, on my current project, the Contractor is laying out the walls with a Total Station laser system

which is somehow tied into our Shared Coordinates. And a major portion of the building is CURVED!

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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loboarch
als Antwort auf: cbcarch


@cbcarch wrote:

Maybe your boss back then was a stock holder in the company that sells the blue chalk line tool? Smiley (zwinkernd)

Believe it or not, on my current project, the Contractor is laying out the walls with a Total Station laser system

which is somehow tied into our Shared Coordinates. And a major portion of the building is CURVED!


Stock holder in blue chalk?????  I like it. Maybe that is the reason???  I never really asked "why" we did it that way. It was my first professional job out of college so i did not really question it. I worked there until I started working for Autodesk.

 

Layout by laser total station linked to model coordinates, now I can get behind that for sure. Maybe it won't even be an argument in the future since the Total station really doesn't care what your dimensions say, it is just laying stuff out.



Jeff Hanson
Principal Content Experience Designer
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georgehobel
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

that tool sounds real sweet.... what a time saver.  you could even work in the dark...

I'm not seeing how the tab key does anything when I'm laying out dimensions.... guess i need to go watch a tutorial..

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: georgehobel

When you are placing the dimension's "witness line"--hit the Tab key and it will "cycle" between available faces in the compound wall.

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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georgehobel
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

OK... now I got it... I've only tried it using the "aligned" dimension... I cant seem to figure out the "linear" dimension tool.... it only finds something to connect to on mondays

 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design

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