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Detailed Wall Joins

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wr.marshall
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Detailed Wall Joins

I have to create some really detailed wall joins which can be scheduled to calculate material cost. My question has nothing to do with schedules & take-offs directly. It is the actual modelling of these wall joins. I am currently using Revit 2018 for the project. The issues I have is that the hierarchy system for joins has a limit of 5 options (wish this would increase). I tried creating the wall join as a column with some strange results which don't work. I have also tried to model different walls (with required layers) in portions. it works fine for 1 will join, but the moment you start adding a 3rd element it starts producing strange results. I could try modelling individual wall layers but this is a time consuming exercise when placing windows and doors in these walls and then making sure openings align...

If a 2D overlay is the best way forward, what would be the best way to schedule material in the joins ? Any options or suggestions welcome.

 

Attached is the project simplified show the column for the wall Join & the Wall types with my attempts and creating correct wall joins. Please see detail required below.

 

Wall Join Required (Drawn in ACAD)Wall Join Required (Drawn in ACAD)

 

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Avaris.
als Antwort auf: wr.marshall

You mean this?

 

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Just put the finish layers of the separation wall in the core layer, remove the insulation of the facade from the core and place it at the inside.

 

By the way, wall joints and wraps are only for visual representation, you'll find that take-offs are not really accurate.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: wr.marshall

Parts is another valuable tool -- or set of tools within a tool -- that can aid you in "modeling" details such as you are showing.   FWIW.

 

Regarding wall wrap conditions, @Avaris. is right on: wraps have zero BIM value and are cosmetic only.  Revit really needs to get with it on this shortcoming.  

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Avaris.

The issue with turning everything into core is that when that wall intersects with some interior wall with finishes, they don't join nicely.
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Avaris.
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

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wr.marshall
als Antwort auf: Avaris.

Posted this wish which would resolve my wall join issue

 

drag-and-drop-wall-layers-in-wall-joins

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