Detail Item Tag with View Reference

Detail Item Tag with View Reference

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Detail Item Tag with View Reference

Anonymous
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Hello all,

 

I am looking at a set of drawings where I have created very custom detail sheets that contain elevations of individual glass panels for a large scale project I am working on. I created a detail item tag some time ago that had two parameters: type name, and comments.

 

The type name is obvious, but the comments was a blank box where I could enter in the view reference for a section detail manually. Going back over this I would like to make one tag that contains the following parameters:

 

  • Detail Item Type Name (Top Line)
  • Detail Number/Sheet Number (Bottom Line)

I am having some trouble bringing these two parameters together since they belong to different family parameters. I am trying to do this, so that when I want to move sections around to different sheets, then the tag will update automatically, and I don't have to keep track of all the hundreds of different types. If this is not possible then I highly suggest that it be made possible! I am aware of the multi-category tag, but can't seem ti find the view reference parameters! Picture of current tag attached, this would be what I would like the final tag to look like, except with the view reference parameters.Capture.png

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cbcarch
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Forgive me if I don't fully understand, but--

-I would avoid this type of annotation. It is error-prone, and does not take advantage of Revit's "smart tagging" ability,

which is a major advantage and helps create better/well coordinated documents.

-Are the glass panels for the exterior? or interior? Curtainwalls? If so, you can create elevations of them and tag them in the elevation views, place the views on sheets and then let Revit handle the View References automatically.

-You can use tags to annotate each panel type. Create Schedules for Curtain Panels with glazing type, size, count, etc.

-Can you elaborate a bit more on what exactly you need to achieve regarding annotating the glass panels? ( but not a long discussion about your current manually-entered data in a detail item tag, etc.)

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Anonymous
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I inherited this model from my predecessor. They are exterior glazing curtain wall panels that envelope the whole building. The curtain wall panel itself was not built to exact manufacturing dimensions (which is what my company does) The detail item elevations were created as a fast way for me to get the exact width and heights of each panel. The actual panels are already tagged for installation purposes. I already have all that taken care of and would simply like to tie each detail type to a view so that it keeps track of the detail number when the sections inevitably get moved to different sheets. This will save me tons of time.
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barthbradley
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I'm trying to wrap my brain around the concept. You want an element tag to  automatically populate with a View Reference.  How could Revit automatically figure that out. Placing a View Reference still requires the user to "map" it to some view.   Or am I misreading?   

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Anonymous
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No of course not, misunderstanding in my explanation. It would act like a normal view reference. I would manually assign the view reference to the tag. I just want it to be actually tied to the section like a typical view reference so that when the section gets moved from one sheet to another, the tag automatically updates. As opposed to how it is set up now, where I typed in the current view reference, but is just a dummy parameter a.k.a not tied to a real view. So if I were to move that section, then I would have to go back and find all the corresponding detail items and change those tags manually.

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barthbradley
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Got it! Sorry. Interesting. I like it! 

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ToanDN
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I would leave a blank box in the Detail item tag and place a view reference in that box in the view.  

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Anonymous
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I had thought of that, just seems like something we should be able to do by now!

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ToanDN
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@Anonymous wrote:

I had thought of that, just seems like something we should be able to do by now!


What you are trying to do is mixing between element id and view/sheet id.  They are not connected.  You can place the same element on different views.  Think about an element on dependent views placed on different sheets.  It is still the same element.

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