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Demolish and rebuild floor

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tonytwok
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Demolish and rebuild floor

I need to rebuild one floor in different fases but I have problems. This is what I do: in the first phase I create the floor that I demolish in the second phase. In the second phase I create the new floor 100 cm higher compared to the old floor.

Now as you can see in my screenshots I have niches in the wall, how can I avoid this problem? Walls and floor are jointed and obviously I haven't this problem if are disjointed.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

Have you tried switching the join order of the floors and wall?

 

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tonytwok
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Yes but isn't the right solution because in this case floor never penetrate until concrete structure. 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

Are the layers in your wall & floor set correctly?

 

Can you share an example project with the wall and floor in?

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tonytwok
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Sure, see the attacment please.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

When you draw the boundary for your floor in plan, it doesn't need to overlap the concrete in the wall. If you do that then the gap shown in the next phase is smaller. I think you will then need to fill in the gap with a new small wall.

 

Technically what revit is showing here is correct, because that part of the wall never existed and needs a new piece to infill it.

 

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aRcHiTeCt.JM
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

.... got to phasing setting

... and change the phase to none

... you can see the two floors attached

... click the upper floor and unjoin it

 

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tonytwok
als Antwort auf: aRcHiTeCt.JM

This is a good expedient but not a full solution because in one phase I see the floor not joined to the wall...

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

Yes; and you would have a  "niche" in that wall in the real world as well.  How would you deal with it? Probably fill it; right? Well then, fill it in Phase 2.  

 

 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

It maybe easier to create the finish layer as a separate wall.  One existing, joined with the existing core wall and the existing floor, and being demolished.  One new, joined with the existing core wall and the new floor.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

Exist vs. New Construction. Floor removed AND wall repaired in New Construction.  Smiley (zwinkernd)

 

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tonytwok
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

How did you do this? I added a finish layer as a separate wall but if I joint it i have another time the niche.

 

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tonytwok
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Anyone know how he repaired the wall?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tonytwok

How who? Me? 

 

All I did was fill in the wall in the same phase I demo'ed the floor.  I think I used an In-Place Component.  

 

@tonytwok: I just looked at your Revit file that you attached above. It's Perfect!  Just join the patch to the wall to remove the visible edges between the new and existing wall.   Are you not able to join?  

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tonytwok
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I don't know what I do yesterday but now I was able to joint correctly the patch! Thanks!

 

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