I'm just starting to use central models with other people in the office. I'm setting up the model and for now do most the work. They will do some Architectural work. but no MEP work. I will do both A and MEP
I set up a workset for MEP, and one for A (architectural). The problem is since for now I do both MEP and A, I switch between the views and forget to change the workset. That way i end up with plumbing fixtures in the A-workset and wall in the MEP workset.
I'm disciplined enough that I change MEP items only in one of the MEP views. So, my idea is to tie the workset to those view templates. So whenever i switch to an " A" view, it automatically switches to the A-workset. and when I go to a mechanical of plumbing view, it automatically switches to the MEP workset.
but the only thing I'm able to do is change the visibility of the workset (VG-> Worksets) and there I c an choose hide or show a workset. This doesn't really help since the active workset doesn't change.
Am I missing something? OR is that just not possible?
I realize worksets are intended for people only working in this workset. the alternative is to not use worksets and rely on everyone just knowing what to touch and what not. Any advice how to tackle this?
Do one model per discipline. En each model, create a set of worksets.
I do it this way:
For the architectural model:
For the site plan:
For the Structural model:
For the Electrical model:
For the Plumbing model:
For the Mechanical model:
For each discipline, there is a default workset, that begins with the prefix Bldg- (building elements). This used to be "workset1", renamed.
All links go in worksets that begin with the prefix Link-
All other model elements that are not building elements go into Model-References (temporary elements, markers, scope boxes, reference planes).
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I would keep MEP in one model since I'm the only one doing those 3 disciplines that.
How do you then create a single sheetset with all sheets form all models? Are you creating separate sheetsets from each model and combine the PDF?
For the time being I wanted to avoid linked models and use the central model approach at least for people from our office. I'm afraid there will be issues with rooms from architectural model etc. or limited ability to attach things to elements from other models. these are just smaller remodel models with very limited structural and no civil work done by consultants. but for anyone external to our office I think it has to be linked.
If I chose to have separate A and MEP model, would I keep both of them open at the same time to work on? Like when I build the existing model, I bud architectural and MEP existing components kind of at the same time. But with a linked model approach, have to save and reload the models.
I'll have to explore the linked approach more for future projects. this is the first project someone else in the office is supposed to do work as well.
If you want to have a "default workset", it is better to have an architectural model and a mechanical (or MEP) model, instead of all in the same model. The set of worksets above is typical when the architect has consultants all working on Revit, and usually at different offices.
About the sheets, you can print sheets from the individual models, and control the index from the architectural model.
Do the sheets from the linked models show up in the architectural model to allow an automatic " all sheets" sheet list schedule and export all sheets at once to PDF from architectural model?
So far I only needed to integrate structural sheets from an outside party. For those few sheets I created " fake" S-sheets and then linked their PDF on my fake sheets I created in my model. that way I still can create a full sheetset out of my Revit file. that is a somewhat manual process to set up. I fear for many more sheets than just two structural sheets, I need a more automated way.
You collect PDF sheets from external consultants. And then you put together their .pdf files with yours using a pdf editor and organize a submission set. About the index of sheets, you can create an index that shows all sheets in linked models. For models that are not linked, you need to create placeholder sheets.
Thanks. I wasn't aware the " total" sheet schedule works with linked files. I'll explore the linking more on the next project.
For this project I leave it as a Central model. I'm not even sure how much work the other people actually will do in the file. Maybe I just get rid of the work sets. Worksets seem to work if there is an actual distinction between who does what.
You cannot "get rid of the worksets" if that file is supposed to be for teamwork. Collaboration requires worksets.
I guess I can retroactively fix what is assigned to which workset since my separation is between A and MEP, I can select and filter out all walls, windows etc. and assign to the A-workset. All pipes, ducts etc. go to the MEP workset.
My project situation is a bit unusual. As of now I don't even know which specific person is supposed to help me with Architecture. But one is a beginner, the other never used Revit. So this requires me to do a lot of the A-work and also assist later with whatever they do on their own. and since I can't start my actual MEP work before A exists, I have to do that and also to make sure it is correct.
The worksets and other methods likely are intended if each party is fully capable of not needing the other party to help. Like a fully experienced professional architect give me their model, and I know everything on their side is correct and I just focus on MEP. This isn't really the case here.
You can do away with separate worksets and have everyone use "workset1". I worked this way for years and it helped to not have things modeled by new people on the wrong worksets which often caused a lot of issues.
If you are using worksets to filter actual elements, don't use worksets. Just use view templates and filters.
There are addins that can help you move things quickly to worksets if you wish to do so, and also there are dynamo scripts that can be used to force elements to specific worksets.
If you do use worksets for different people or disciplines, I recommend you force the option to chose the workset on opening the project (each time). So this way Bob doesn't accidentally work on the Susy workset, etc. (some companies make employees use their own workset to monitor who models certain elements).
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