Creating Custom Floors: Binding Profiles for Foam panels Under Concrete (How can I use profile above?)

Creating Custom Floors: Binding Profiles for Foam panels Under Concrete (How can I use profile above?)

bavi.g
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Creating Custom Floors: Binding Profiles for Foam panels Under Concrete (How can I use profile above?)

bavi.g
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Hello fellow forum members,

 

I'm currently facing a challenge in my project, and I'm hoping to get some guidance on how to make my floor function (thermal layer) seamlessly integrate with the profile above it so that it can mold itself to the shape of our product—specifically, foam panels.

While I'm aware that addressing closed loops might be tricky, please disregard any holes in my illustration. I'm solely focused on finding a solution to ensure that the area beneath the concrete is effectively filled with foam panels.

 

In my project, I've successfully created a profile for the concrete part, but I'm now faced with the task of integrating foam panels. My ultimate aim is to create a floor that showcases both the concrete and foam profiles in both 3D and Section views.

 

Below, I've included some visual aids to help illustrate the issue:

 

This is what I want;

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This is what I have so far;

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I'm open to any and all alternative solutions or suggestions you may have to address this problem. Your expertise and insights would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to share your thoughts and experiences regarding similar situations or techniques that could help me achieve the desired outcome.

 

Thank you in advance for your assistance!

 

Bavi

 

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ToanDN
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You can use beam system to model insulation panels.

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bavi.g
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Thank you so such a great tip! I love it!
Now the only issue is; that I am not able to flush these panels with - the beam system boundary. Any tips on fixing this issue? Is there any way we cut these curves or odd shapes automatically?

 

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ToanDN
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Not automatically.  But you can model the beam system with a larger boundary and one of the following approaches to trim the beams:

- create a temporary very thick wall matching the curve and join it with the beams, then hide the wall

- create a solid (not void, very important) form mass in place and use it to cut then beams, then hide the mass

- use opening by face to cut the beams

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syman2000
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You can use generic model array family to achieve the corner cut. First create an in-place generic model solid

 

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Then you do join geometry with the in-place with the array panel. Then set the in-place family to demolish in the same phase

 

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You should have panel with curve profile. See sample for idea

 

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Check out my Revit youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/scourdx
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bavi.g
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Thanks @ToanDN and @syman2000 for your input. I like the suggested solution, but I want to explain why automation is so important here. It's all about making things easier for architects who will use these floors.

 

If it were just for me, I could manually handle the details, but we want architects to have a smooth experience. Also,  these panel sits halfway through the wall, not right at the edge - which makes cutting more complicated. If we don't automate, architects will have to spend a lot of time fixing those edges.

 

My job is to create custom floors that architects can use without much hassle. For now, I'll take advantage of your great suggestions, but my manager is looking for a more permanent solution.

 

I'm still on the lookout for ideas, so please share if anything comes to mind. Your input is really appreciated.

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syman2000
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I am good that you are concerned with architects being able to get smooth experience from the manufacturer product. However the majority of the manufacturer products make their product too overly complex to the point it becomes useless to modify for Architect specific needs. Sure they can give us their product in very high detail, but rarely do I see them provide 3d detail of their product interacting with other assembly so we understand how the product works. So I would suggest to keep it simple and let the Architect figure out what they need. If they have a question, I am sure they will always get back to you.

 

As for other suggestions, I have used roof sloping glazing to create a customized panel that will conform to any shape. However this will not work for your case since it may need to be scheduled properly and put the family in the correct category.

Check out my Revit youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/scourdx
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