creating a Metric Generic Model face based above a floor that have the same shape above the floor

[ahmadkhalaf7892]

Hello Everyone I am creating a family using metric generic model face-based family. I want to place it above the floor. However how can I make this family have the same shape (length and width ) as the floor in the project.(this is the front View)

  (note the above shape is only for illustrational purposes ).(front View)
and here you can see that I have a normal floor in Revit project 

 however when I try and load it into the project and place it on the floor , it is not taking the width and the length of the floor it's larger. or smaller. 

 

My question is : is it possible to make this Generic model face based family , have the same dimensions as the floor to be inserted in ? 
Thanks

[barthbradley]

I don't understand why you just don't use another floor?   You can Clipboard Copy/Paste Aligned the first floor and change it's Type and Offset From Level.  

...but, FWIW, this is something that would be easier done as an In-Place custom-modeled component. Then you can reference the existing floor. 

[ahmadkhalaf7892]

Hi dear 

Thanks for your help. I am using C# to automate some placement of families.

May I ask if the approach can be done via a specific family would directly get the shape of the floor ? 

Is that possible?

Thanks

[barthbradley]

So, you want to create a face-based family that automatically sizes/shapes itself based on the size/shape of face it is hosted to? If so, you can't. 

[ahmadkhalaf7892]

It's not necessary a facebased family , it can be generic, is that possible or that's not possible at all?

[ToanDN]

What is it supposed to be exactly?  Can you not model it as layer(s) of the floor itself?

[ahmadkhalaf7892]

1. I am trying to add this shape above the floor , however usually the floor will have a slope arrow and have a profile. 
2. I was trying to see if maybe I cancreate a family that gets the default shape of the floor with the above shape indicated .
3. Keep in mind that I cannot create wierd shapes or make them variables floor since the floors will have a profile (slopeareows)
4. Thanks I'd appreciate any help

[ToanDN]

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@ahmadkhalaf7892 wrote:

1. I am trying to add this shape above the floor , however usually the floor will have a slope arrow and have a profile. 
2. I was trying to see if maybe I cancreate a family that gets the default shape of the floor with the above shape indicated .
3. Keep in mind that I cannot create wierd shapes or make them variables floor since the floors will have a profile (slopeareows)
4. Thanks I'd appreciate any help

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You can certainly model it as a floor layer with variable thickness within a floor assembly.

- Model a flat floor

- Modify sub-element and raise one edge

[ahmadkhalaf7892]

Can the floor layer have a variable thickness only without affecting the orginal floor ?
Also It will have a slope arrow ( a slope)
When I tried this before I was informed that I cannot add a slopeareow and a floor together



https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-create-a-sloped-floor-and-a-floor-wit...

[ToanDN]

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@ahmadkhalaf7892 wrote:
Can the floor layer have a variable thickness only without affecting the orginal floor ?  Yes.
Also It will have a slope arrow ( a slope)
When I tried this before I was informed that I cannot add a slopeareow and a floor together
Add a Spot Slope annotation.


https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-create-a-sloped-floor-and-a-floor-wit...

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[ahmadkhalaf7892]

I really appreciate your help a lot , Thanks I'll do work on them tomorrow and If I had aproblem I'll ask here again .
Sorry but it's getting late here 12 Am
Thanks a lot Again much appreciated 🙂

[stefan_gokstorp]

another approch if you insist on having it as a family is doing it by dynamo. you make the family host based to the floor and via dynamo you collect the host (the floor you model is hosted to) and extract the information of its measurements and apply it to your family the width and depth parameter would have to be at instance level and it would require you to run a script so it would be semi automatic instead of automatic but i think that the closest you are gonna get