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Could not create Reveal. Failed to cut wall.

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perry.swoboda
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Could not create Reveal. Failed to cut wall.

Hi.
I am having a problem with adding vertical and horizontal crossing reveals to a wall.  Sometimes the reveal that crosses another raises a "Could not create Reveal.  Failed to cut wall." error.  This doesn't always happen, but when it does you cannot place a reveal across any other in the entire document.   This happens often enough that every one of our designers has encountered this, and I have been asked to look into it.

 

The only workaround seems to be modifying the reveal profile, making it wider or deeper.  This workaround only seems to apply to the current document.  The modified reveal copied into another document can have this error as well.

Attaching a sample screenshot and a journal file where this recently happened.  Can't share the model because it is part of a current project.

Is there some trick to reveal making that we are missing?

 

The journal file has a problem with "Invalid input for intersectSurfacesGivenStartPnt".  Is there some way to avoid this?

'E 10-Dec-2019 16:42:55.375; 0:<
Jrn.LButtonDown 1 , 276 , 256
' 0:< Candidates (curIdx = -1):
'C 10-Dec-2019 16:42:55.384; DBG_INFO: Invalid input for intersectSurfacesGivenStartPnt.: line 6911 of d:\ship\2020_px64\source\foundation\geomutil\surfaceutil.cpp.
' 1:< Post error without user constructed flag
' 1:< Error posted:
' 1:< Could not create Reveal. Failed to cut wall.
' 1:< Invoked HandleDocFailure
' 1:< Error dialog data for transaction Reveal in Host document
' 1:< Warning: Could not create Reveal. Failed to cut wall.
' 1:< 1 : Reveals : Reveal : Falk Vertical Reveal 4.6mm : id 3299034
' 1:< 2 : Walls : Basic Wall : FALK 6" SUPER STUD - Solid Wall (6) : id 3298963
' 1:< Error dialog summary
' 1:< Warning: Could not create Reveal. Failed to cut wall. - 1 times
'H 10-Dec-2019 16:42:55.390; 1:<
Jrn.Data "Error dialog" _
, "0 failures, 0 errors, 1 warnings"

Thanks!

 




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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

I suspect a bad profile.  Inspect profile. Maybe a double line in it. 

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Thanks.  I will run that by our family guy.

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

I checked the profile and while it looks more complicated than I expected it does not appear to have any double lines.
Attaching if anyone is willing to take a look.  We basically added a centerline to the reveal for compatibility with our Inventor designers.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

Profile works fine. Just tested. Issue must be with your Project/Wall. Post the RVT.  

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Ok.  Thanks.  I stripped as much out of the model as I could to make it smaller.  There is a wall in the 3D view where if you add a vertical reveal of the same type it will throw the error.


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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

No errors thrown for me. Works fine and dandy.  Did you test this file?  Maybe the issue was being caused by something you blew out to make the file smaller? 

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

How strange.  It happens every time here for me.

Here are some screenshots.

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

Error screen shot.

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

I am running no addins except RevitBatchUtil and RevitLookup.  But I don't think either of these interfere with the regular running of Revit.  And the version of Revit I run is 2020.1.  Are there any differences between your system and mine?

If you have a magic addin that fixes this problem, I would like it.  

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

It happened!  Only on one side though. Has to be related to the profile. Back in a bit....

 

 

I can get it to work by giving the reveals placed on that side a slight NEGATIVE Offset from Wall.  

 

Offset.png

 

OFFSET2.png

 

 

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

Is it because I am creating the second reveal in 3D?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

It's related to the Profile as I first predicted.  Since the Profile is used successfully in the Project, best solution would be to just use the same Profile and give it a slight "Offset From Wall" for those problem Reveals.  You can use "-1/64"" as well -- maybe even smaller.  Play with it.  

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: perry.swoboda

Try this one.

 

Annotation 2019-12-12 094008.pngAnnotation 2019-12-12 094034.png

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perry.swoboda
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Thanks guys.  Both of your suggestions worked!
Why would a pointier reveal profile be better?  The angle was too subtle?

Thanks again.

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