Clerestory window display in foor plan?

[Anonymous]

I've spent several hours reviewing all I can find on view ranges, underlays, object display properties, etc. and so far haven't found any information on displaying windows that are above the cut plane and within the primary range. Windows seem to be a special case and nothing I've been able to do indside the View Range dialog box seems to help. My intention is to show these windows as a dashed line style as you would normally do in a 2d plan view.

The elements are clearly there, they show up in 3d and elevation views, but in no other views. Ther are no issues with phasing or view filters. The windows have a sill elevation of +6' and a head ht of 7'8". I would hate to think that with a sophisticated bit of software like revit that there is no way to elect to view elements that are above the cut plane.

Can anyone help me out?

[aghis_no]

Revit does not have overhead representation, but there are several ways you can deal with that.

Unlike ADT/ACA the is no automatic overhead representation that you can activate. You can, however, choose what objects you wish to see represented while the reside over the cut line of the plan.

The most common is to use set the view range of your view so that the top of the range at least cuts the invisible window. Then you use the linework tool (modify panel). With the linework tool active, choose the linetype you wish to use (typically <overhead>) and hover over the "invisible" window to highlight it  and left just click on it. This will transform the invisible contours of the window in "overhead" dashed lines. This representation will reflect all modifications of the window. This works also for all other types of overhead representations. Just have a look at the following posts and videos.

Another post: http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Autodesk-Revit-Architecture/Reflected-floor-in-ground-plan/td-p/278344...

A simple tutorial can be found here: http://insidethefactory.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010​/07/linework.html

A good explanation of the view range: http://www.screencast.com/users/PFACS/folders/Training/media/7bd15d09-9397-4666-bc70-21f767c4bf3b

regards

aghis

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Try this:

In your main floor plan view, turn on an Underlay of the Level above, where the clerestory windows are.

Set it to Reflected Ceiling type of underlay.

Then, use the Linework Tool , set it to "above" or "hidden" dashed line style, and pick the lines of the clerestory windows.

Then, simply turn the Underlay off in the view. The linework will remain attached to the clerestory window

if you move it or make changes.

cheers

[Anonymous]

Thank you both for your advice. Very helpful. After my post I did find some items about Plan Regions and this has at least made the windows visible, but they view as if they were in the cut plane, not above as they should. I think I like the "linework" option better. Gracias.

[Anonymous]

Greetings,

Follow-up. I don't know if there's something I've not done properly in setting up the model, but it turns out I had to use both Plan Regions and the line work tool to get the proper representation of the clerestory windows.

The overlay function was pretty useles. I couldn't get the windows to show up even with the underlay set to the floor level in question and Reflected Ceilling plan selected for plan type.

The best result I could get without also adding a plan region for each window was a bare rectangle outline of the window box, not the window itself. And that just didn't read properly. However with a plan region for each window and the cut plane for that regoin set to cut the windows, I was able to get a properly dashed and complete representation of the window. This seems like a lot of effort to have to go through to show a simple overhead window. I hope the software engineers are working on this. Thanks again.

[Anonymous]

View Range is quite often the problem--and a bit hard to grasp.

See the attached .dwfx file ( opens with Autodesk Design Review--download it for free if you don't have it installed.)

cheers