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Center of Survey Point

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mairh_tsek
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Center of Survey Point

Hello all,

 

I want to move a generic model element (it is an inverted pyramide, so I need the center of it) in the center of the Survey Point. 

 

I cannot do it with 100% accuracy, as I cannot find the center of the Survey point in 3D.

 

Any idea?

 

Thank you in advance! 

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ennujozlagam
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

you can draw model lines in plan view as a marker and that model line will appear in your 3d view. thanks





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MichaelWolff
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

I have just tried it and Revit snaps to the survey point just fine. If there is anything in the way you will have to TAB a little until the circular point snap shows.

What do means by needing the centre of the upside down pyramid? Its centre of gravity or its bottom point? Can you provide some imagery?

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ennujozlagam
als Antwort auf: MichaelWolff

Post some screenshot of what are you trying to achieve. Thanks





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ennujozlagam
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

Post some screenshot of what are you trying to achieve? Thanks





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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: ennujozlagam

Thank you for your help.

 

I tried both tab and model lines but I cannot find their intersection.

 

 

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MichaelWolff
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

This is what I came up with.

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MichaelWolff
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

The tip of your in-place-family marker is below zero. In Revit the developers do not want 3D-snaps for everything in 3D views and is restricted to structural elements and probably some others.

So you are stuck with your selected working plane (level 0). If you go inside your marker objekt (ie edit it) and remove the offset, its tip is on the same level as the survey point. the model lines are somewhat in the way but can be tabbed away.

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Mirko.Jurcevic
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

Sometimes Revit will not allow you to move an item, but will allow you to copy it, so exploit it.

Also, you should be familiar with using different Snaps while in the middle of command (it's useful to remember all of the Snaps shortcuts, Manage tab > Snaps).

 

Workflow which should solve your problem (and other similar):

1. Set 3D view on View cube on "Front" (or on any appropriate side view)

2. Select object you want to "move" and choose "Copy" command

3. uncheck "Constrained" on options bar

4. type SE (Snap Ends) and pick pyramid top

5. type SX (Snap Points) and pick Survey Point

Now your object will be in the same plane as Survey Point

6. Rotate your 3D View and repeat steps 2. to 5. (now you can use "Move" command instead of "Copy" command).

 

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: Mirko.Jurcevic

Thank you for your answers.

 

I will try it! 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

I'll throw in another idea for your consideration.  The source "inverted pyramid" appears it be a non-Revit element.  Why not Export it out of Revit as a dwg, open it in AutoCAD and move the inverted pyramid to the Origin of the dwg (e.g. place the "tip" of the inverted pyramid at 0,0,0).   Then save the dwg and Link it into Revit via Shared Coordinates.  This will place the  on the "tip" of the inverted pyramid on the Survey Point.  

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: Mirko.Jurcevic

I did your workflow. When I export the IFC and I open it in Solibri the Global X,Y have the value : -0.50m.

 

Why? I expected to had 0,0,0,..

 

 

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Mirko.Jurcevic
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

I assume those are object bounding box coordinates (left-most X, bottom-most Y), since your object is about 1m wide, it's -0,5m on the left (X) 0,5m on the right (X)

it's also -0,5m down (Y) and 0,5m up (Y)

From this point, bounding box is measured to the right (along X axis) and to the up (along Y axis)

 

I believe tip point is in the center (0,0,0), make sure to check that.

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: Mirko.Jurcevic

@Mirko.Jurcevic  , 

 

Thank you a lot for your idea! You are right!

 

I 'deleted' the bounding box exploding the item and uncheck the ' Show Shape Handle' option in the properties.

 

 

 

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

Finally, I didn;t find how can 'delete; the bounding box.. in order to have the correct coordinates

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

Actually it is strange because in total I have 3 points like that.

When I expode in Revit the first point that is in 0.0.0 instead of the values -0.50m I get the value 0.0m so its ok!

 

When I explode the other two points the values remain the same..

 

Any explanation? 

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Mirko.Jurcevic
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

Not sure I understand, please attach files you used (IFC and/or RVT)

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