Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

[Anonymous]

I've created simple face generic family and place into project but I cannot place spot elevation on every face I need.

I need to place spot elevation as in blue on pic below but some face as in red not allow me to place the spot elevation. This problem happen both plan view and this 3D view.

need to spot as blue

[cbcarch]

Try:

-Architecture Tab>Work Plane>Set>Pick a Plane>Select the face you are trying to place spot elevation on.

- If the generic model has a sloped surface, it might not be able to host a spot elevation

- Try using a Floor instead of the generic model.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Thank you for your reply. It still doesn't fix the problem. Anyway, my team has found solution by changed type of family from face generic family to normal generic family then we can place spot elevation on everywhere we need.

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymouswrote:

... my team has found solution by changed type of family from face generic family to normal generic family...

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That's a neat trick. How'd you do that? 

You sure you don't mean you made the Generic Family Work Plane-Based.

[barthbradley]

Appreciate the kudo, but my question remains: how the heck did you CHANGE a hosted family to an UNHOSTED family. I'd like to know the trick. Or, do you mean you re-built the family from scratch  in another template? 

[Anonymous]

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@barthbradleywrote:

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@Anonymouswrote:

... my team has found solution by changed type of family from face generic family to normal generic family...

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That's a neat trick. How'd you do that? 

You sure you don't mean you made the Generic Family Work Plane-Based.

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Dear barthbradley,

Firstly we need to model by quick in exactly vertical plane at each side of building and it's perfect with face based generic model. Then, we were facing issue when we started spot elevation them. Finally, it can be solved by changed face based generic family to simple generic family.

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[barthbradley]

Thank you for the reply back, @Anonymous. Yes, I understand perfectly what the issue was. What I don't understand is the solution you found. It sounds like you're saying that you simply changed the Face-Based family (a hosted family) to an unhosted family.  It's not like this is an OOTB solution, because it isn't. I'm merely asking how your "team" accomplished this.   

[ToanDN]

Place the face based family, disassociate it from the host, save, new file, link, copy monitor the family.
Or something like that.

[barthbradley]

Thanks so much @ToanDN. I know that workflow. That's the real solution here; the one that should be credited here. 

@Anonymous? 

[Anonymous]

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@barthbradleywrote:

Thanks so much @ToanDN. I know that workflow. That's the real solution here; the one that should be credited here. 

@Anonymous? 

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As you mention it cannot simply change from hosted to unhosted family. We've started from scratch because it's simple geometric one.

[ToanDN]

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@barthbradley wrote:

Thanks so much @ToanDN. I know that workflow. That's the real solution here; the one that should be credited here. 

@Anonymous? 

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You are welcome.  But it doesn't work.  Wall/Roof/Floor/Ceiling based can be copied/monitored to Face based but none can to non-host/workplane based.  Another way is nesting the face based family in a non-host/workplane based family.

The strange thing is that I have no problems placing spot elevation on any types of families.

[Anonymous]

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@ToanDNwrote:
Place the face based family, disassociate it from the host, save, new file, link, copy monitor the family.
Or something like that.

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@ToanDN,

Thank you for your comment. I didn't know work flow like this before. Could you share video clip and how you place spot elevation on it.

[ToanDN]

[ubaldurban]

I had the same issue. The problem was that the View Range was set to 0.00 and Family was starting from 0.00 but slopping down.

After taking it to -10cm I could Place spot elevation and change the View Range back.

Maybe it is not a solution for most situations but may help someone.