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Cannot place Spot Annotation on modified sub-element floor

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jagostinho74
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Cannot place Spot Annotation on modified sub-element floor

Hello,

 

Just a quick one to share a finding, in case you do not already know.

 

It seems that one cannot place a Spot Annotation (Elevation or Coordinate) on a modified sub-element floor if the resulting face has, at least, an arched edge.

 

See image attached. Marked in grey symbols the places where one could not place a Spot Annotation and have highlighted the arc edges in red.

Spot Annotation in curved edge floor.png

 

Regards,

Joaquim

Assistant BIM/CAD Manager

Manchester, UK


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t_mokha
als Antwort auf: jagostinho74

Hello Joaquim,

 

I was able to place Spot Elevations and Coordinates on a floor with an arched edge and that was also split. I am not sure if I'm following your steps, but in order to get a clear view on if this is possible or not, can you please do a quick step-by-step?

 

 

Best regards,



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Adham Mokhtar
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San José, Costa Rica
www.autodesk.com

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jagostinho74
als Antwort auf: t_mokha

Hello,

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

Please see attached file and screencast.

 

Regards,

J

Assistant BIM/CAD Manager

Manchester, UK


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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: jagostinho74

Hello @jagostinho74

 

This is an old story with Spot Elevation. The tool is meant for planar surfaces. The arc at the side of your form alters the planar properties of the surface (becomes Helical). I believe thats the reason why it is not droping the spot in the middle however it does drop it on the line/edge itself ...

 

In old versions someone came up with a so called workaround for Spot Coordinates which u are also using. They place the spot coordinate on a plan surface then drag it to the helical ramp...It will drop there indeed. But I am not sure how accurate it would be reading. To flex: drag the spot elevation from a plan surface to the helical sector...You will get the error that the spot doesn't lie on the surface (Ie: draging the Spot Coordinate is kinda flawed)...Try it again in section view; the spot wont move across the border of the planar surface. Hence dont let anyone convince you to do that in plan view

 

The way to drop spot coordinates and spot elevation is to drop the spots at the Border Edges ONLY

 

 

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t_mokha
als Antwort auf: jagostinho74

Joaquim,

 

Following RDAOU post, I checked and found this as an existing improvement request.

I was finally able to replicate the behavior on my side so I got exactly what you have in your project, only that in a new project of mine (and can't annotate with Spot Elevation nor Coordination).

 

There is currently no exact time-frame for this to be implemented but I have added your case's existence to the request so that they take it into consideration as an additional user requesting it, in order to prioritize it.

 

 



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Adham Mokhtar
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San José, Costa Rica
www.autodesk.com

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: t_mokha

@t_mokha

 

Its been there for a long time; I don't believe it is on the priority list because it was compensated when Autodesk aquired Dynamo (which works as an add-in). It's the only workaround (accurate one) if someone insists on droping spot elevations on a helical form. (Probably there are other add-ins which do the trick but personally I haven't heard of)

 

Otherwise; in Revit, inserting a planar element (ex: drain) in the helical ramp and droping the Revit spot elevations on to it gets it to work.

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Jaiyakumar
als Antwort auf: RDAOU

Hi,

 

I had the same issue, but unfortunately the method of dragging spot elevation from plan surface to required slope didn't work at all.

If you can - Can you please suggest me any other way to do this process? 

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