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Can't insert door if the wall's base is too far above reference level

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vancikv
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Can't insert door if the wall's base is too far above reference level

I have discovered a restriction in door insertion. If the wall's base is too high above base level, Revit ceases to recognize the wall as eligible for door insertion. The definition of "too high" is connected to the height of the door being inserted. In my sample file it equals to Door Height + 76 mm. It doesn't mean that the wall is unable to host the door, but it seemingly can't be inserted in a standard way.

 

Workarounds:

1. Insert a higher door and change it to the correct one afterwards.

2. Temporarily adjust the wall base so as to be able to insert the correct door.

 

In certain types of projects I use a single level either at the sea surface level or at some reference level above that, generally < 10 m below the project's lowest point. These tend to not contain lots of doors, which is why I never came across this issue. Still, I don't see any positives to it. Any thoughts on why this works the way it does? Also, why 76 mm?

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L.Maas
als Antwort auf: vancikv

Standard method of working is to make use of levels. Then Revit/Autodesk makes the assumption that sill height of door is at 0 mm above level. As long as the door touches the wall it will insert door in the wall. If not than it can not host, so a problem.

 

The 75/76 mm is due to that you have a frame around your door of 75 mm (2000+75 = 2075 mm).

 

So Revit automates certain steps of what is expected "standard" workflow. In this case it did not consider your workflow.

Louis

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Please mention Revit version, especially when uploading Revit files.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: vancikv

Set the door sill height when you insert it so that it cut the wall. Or insert on an Elevation or 3d view. 

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vancikv
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

That's actually why I'm posting the question. It doesn't work regardless of the sill height or active view.
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vancikv
als Antwort auf: L.Maas

Thanks, you make a good point. Seems like a redundancy on Revit's part, though, because it's checked upon actual insertion whether the door will cut anything. I can't imagine any situation where I'd benefit from this extra level of verification, but I may just lack the imagination.
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: vancikv

I don't understand the point of this testing. Doors are Ref. Level Based.  You would need Face-Based Doors to do what you want to do. Face-Based would work all day long and twice on Sundays.      

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