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Can I display the Keynote Category or other additional info

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AGGilliam
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Can I display the Keynote Category or other additional info

My company is in the middle of transitioning from AutoCAD to Revit and I'm trying to determine the best way to display our notes on the sheets. Keynotes seems to be the best way to go but we have a sort of title/description in addition to the keynote text and I'm not sure if there's a good way to implement that.

 

(I apologize for the hard to read text)

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Any thoughts or suggestions?

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: AGGilliam

I would suggest Notes/Note Block. 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK9caWfXSWk

 

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: AGGilliam

Headers can be added through Schedule Formatting. 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gtEEY0pJYM

 

 

 

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AGGilliam
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Thanks for the suggestion! That definitely seems closer to what we're looking for. Do you know of a good way to predefine notes that way though? I was thinking a key schedule might work but I didn't see Generic Annotations as an option.
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Alfredo_Medina
als Antwort auf: AGGilliam

Another common option for sorting general notes (or an abbreviations list) is a key schedule. It helps to keep the text in order, and you can sort the notes by number.


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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: AGGilliam


@AGGilliam wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion! That definitely seems closer to what we're looking for. Do you know of a good way to predefine notes that way though? I was thinking a key schedule might work but I didn't see Generic Annotations as an option.

 

Doesn't that Video help? I would pretty much follow it verbatim.  Maybe add a 4th Text Parameter to enter the header title.   

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AGGilliam
als Antwort auf: Alfredo_Medina

How do I create a key schedule for Generic Annotations?
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AGGilliam
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

The video shows how to create a schedule out of the notes in the project, but if someone needed to add a note to another sheet would they be able to directly place one without having to worry about defining the note text? That's why I was looking at a key schedule, so they can just select the note number and move on. If that's not an option that's fine but that wasn't addressed in the video.
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SteveKStafford
als Antwort auf: AGGilliam

If the notes in your example do not also include placing a symbol somewhere in the drawing that has the same number has your notes then many companies just use text to write out their general notes. If you also place a "keynote" next to elements in a drawing that reference the notes then as others have suggested the Noteblock approach is similar to an AutoCAD block w/ attributes.

 

The noteblock can carry the information you then schedule or it can just provide a way to enter number that matches the note's number. A Key Schedule can be used in conjunction with the latter.

 

Keynote tools, using a custom file, can produce a similar result as noteblocks and the notes are based on a text file of information that has to be edited to provide new notes, a more rigorous process that was designed with CSI designations in mind.

 

It's a matter of trying them and seeing which "poison" you prefer...


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AGGilliam
als Antwort auf: SteveKStafford

We do call them out like keynotes, which is why I initially went with that approach but noteblocks seems to be the better way to go. Again though, I'm not seeing a way to create a Key Schedule for them. I'm using Revit 2022 if that makes a difference, is that a brand new feature?
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SteveKStafford
als Antwort auf: AGGilliam

No, noteblock and schedules are as old as dirt, the very first keynoting approach in Revit. A Noteblock schedule is really a schedule of the annotation family you place. When you create a schedule look for Noteblock Schedule in the list. Then choose the annotation family associated with your notes. For this to work the number and the description need to be in a unique type in the family. So you need a family that is the same as your number symbol next to the notes. Then a new type for each note with unique number and description parameters.

 

 A Key Schedule is a different animal, it is a schedule associated with a category like door (what it was originally created for...door hardware schedules). The add a number and description parameter to the schedule and then add rows until you've created all of them. There is no actual connection between the noteblock family (block w/ attributes) other than you choosing to provide the corresponding number. You have to keep after that if the schedule is changed and it affects the numbers you've already noted. This is "hack" of features to get a schedule of information that isn't directly tied to an element. As such the key schedules like this are usually assigned to a category you are not likely to really use or schedule elements for...like structural reinforcing...assuming you are doing architecture.

 

FWIW, I wrote this BLOG POST years ago describing these options...


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AGGilliam
als Antwort auf: AGGilliam

Took a step away for a bit and came back to mess with it some more. I think I got a bit of tunnel vision thinking of how to get a key schedule to work, but family types work just fine (go figure). I ended up going with @Anonymous 's original suggestion of using the noteblock and fiddled with the formatting to get something that actually looks similar to what we currently have. I'm not a huge fan of having a schedule for each sheet but I'll let the rest of the team weigh in.

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The annotations can even be set to shared and placed in detail families rather than placing them in the drafting view, we'll just need to figure out how we want to filter the different schedules. Thanks for the suggestions and patience y'all, sometimes ya just need a little sleep haha.

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