Building 'Special Architecture' with Revit

Building 'Special Architecture' with Revit

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Building 'Special Architecture' with Revit

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Hello Community,

 

Revit sounds like a very great tool to build things like houses and buildings and other architectural structures. As i don't know the Software in particular, i have a few question before i watch hours of tutorials just to see that it won't fit my needs.

 

So here we go:

 

1. Can one use Revit to build Exhibition booths?

For example my 'Wall' contains different components in different dimensions. Can i tell revit to use my components and how much work is it going to be to tell revit to do so?

 

2. Will i have any limitations when using Revit this way?

 

Thats it for once. I want to thank you beforehand!

 

Kind Regards

 

Sven

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angelica.rodriguez.3d
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I believe you can, you may need to use something like parts or curtain walls to achieve result similar to the panels from exhibition booths and different families in place for other elements. Do you have an image that could illustrate the results you are after?

 

I mean, everybody knows how a building is supposed to look like but not sure what kind of elements you may need to create in Revit for the exhibition spaces.

 

 

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In the first image you can see a more special example.

 In the second image you can see the naked metal structure used to build walls, windows and so on, also theres a door one can see way better in the third image.

 In the third image you can see the finished booth with the textiles ang glass panels and all the other stuff.

 

My next question would be, how big is the amount of work to integrate these components into revit to use it as a normal 'Window', 'Wall' or 'Door'

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160215 Bayerngas@e-World Essen_3.jpg

 

 

160622 Carlo Pignatelli@Interbride Düsseldorf_4.jpg

 

 

160606 Carlo Pignatelli OA0001-2.jpg

 

 

 

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angelica.rodriguez.3d
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I see, I had the feeling it would be something like that. Many years ago I work with exhibition booths and I used to work with 3D AutoCAD and 3DS Max. 

With some basic training on families (super basic as I don't think you need to create parametric elements) and basic training on projects (how to place families, creation of walls, adding views, maybe rendering in Autodesk 360) you can achieve good results, specially with visuals.

 

You may need to ask yourself what would be the level of information required from you to be issued to your clients, providers or maybe fabricators?

 

Whether you need creating drawings for fabrication

Bills of quantities, list of parts?

Or do you simply need to produce plans and elevations for each design?

 

In response to your second question, creating elements than can be reused and 'integrated' in your projects is simple enough, but you need to learn basic skills on family creation. 

 

Good luck

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angelica.rodriguez.3d
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 In the second image you can see the naked metal structure used to build walls, windows and so on, also theres a door one can see way better in the third image.

 In the third image you can see the finished booth with the textiles ang glass panels and all the other stuff.

 

My next question would be, how big is the amount of work to integrate these components into revit to use it as a normal 'Window', 'Wall' or 'Door'

 

For something like the elements in the second image you may want to use structural elements from revit and add 'walls' to cover them if that's what your design entails. 

Elements like doors and windows in Revit can be created in different sizes and options but they always need to be hosted in a Revit wall to exist.

 

 

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At the moment i'm working with autoCAD and 3Dsmax as well, but i felt we could speed up the workflow with revit a lot.

 

It's a little more than the plans. I need several lists that contain parts, quantities, pricing and so on. A List for the truck loading, one for the client with pricing and quantity and one for the stand builders. Sometimes drawings for fabrication as well. And at the moment i have to do them all manually.

In conclusion i need a little bit of everything i guess.

 

Thats some good news.

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angelica.rodriguez.3d
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It will take time to get you to the point where you can master 'all the trades'. It is possible and I've seen examples of companies dealing with fabrication and list of parts.

Start with a simple project, clear geometry, repetition of elements, and so on (something like the image No. 1) Then as you advance with your learning you will feel confident enough to go for a more complex project (from the modelling point of view).



Angelica Rodriguez | Architect

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angelica.rodriguez.3d
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It will take time to get you to the point where you can master 'all the trades'. It is possible and I've seen examples of companies dealing with fabrication and list of parts.

Start with a simple project, clear geometry, repetition of elements, and so on (something like the image No. 1) Then as you advance with your learning you will feel confident enough to go for a more complex project (from the modelling point of view).



Angelica Rodriguez | Architect

Franklin Ellis Architects
The Old Pumphouse
5 The Ropewalk
Nottingham NG1 5DU

T: 0115 941 8475
W: franklinellis.co.uk<>
E : angelica.rodriguez@franklinellis.co.uk

Architecture | Landscape | Interiors
Graphics | Project Management

Partnership name: Franklin Ellis LLP, Partnership No: OC340080
This email is sent for and on behalf of Franklin Ellis LLP
The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged.
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Keith_Wilkinson
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For something like this you're not really going to be using much of the system families in Revit (walls, floors etc), the majority is going to be bespoke families.  How resuable these will be will depend on the modularity of these components but ultimately to see benefits you will need to master the family editor.

 

I did something similar a few years back looking at a demountable grandstand system where the entire structure was built from custom parameter famiiles.  It worked pretty well but I think if I was doing it again now I could do better.  The great thing is that you can schedule it all out as you need to.

 

As for doors and windows - these don't need to be hosted elements - that is the norm but equally they can be standalone unhosted elements, it just depends on the template you use to create them.  Really, there is a vast amount of flexibility but if I were you I'd start by looking at the Family Editor.

 

 



"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Maimonides
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Alfredo_Medina
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Exhibition boots like the ones shown in those images are very small projects that can be done easily in Revit with regular building elements such as walls, curtain walls, etc.. There is not anything really special or difficult about this.


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@Keith_Wilkinson Thank you, i'm definitely gonna have a look at the family editor.

 

@Alfredo_Medina: But the question is: How? and do i still get the lists out of it as i want them to be, with all my custom components?

 

 

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Alfredo_Medina
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asdf_bold wrote:

 

@Alfredo_Medina: But the question is: How? and do i still get the lists out of it as i want them to be, with all my custom components?

 

 


Modeling walls, editing the profile of those walls if necessary, modeling curtain walls, adding furniture elements, etc. And yes, everything can be scheduled, even your custom components. 


Alfredo Medina _________________________________________________________________ ______
Licensed Architect (Florida) | Freelance Instructor | Profile on Linkedin
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Thank you all for your help, i'm gonna learn revit now and try to apply it to my kind of subject.

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