Blockwork dimensions in Render Wall

[msupron]

Hello Reviters!

I am relatively new to Revit and I am trying to create a masonry set out drawing for block work in a wall with a Render finish on it, but Revit does not allow me to snap the dimension lines to the blockwork line, snapping to either the render (Wall Face) or to the Timber-Kit (Core - Structural ) layers. 

I found a workaround to create architectural lines at corners, but considering dimensioning to blockwork and not render is an industry standard, is there a better way to do this? If not, would you use architectural lines or annotation lines for that and why?

Below is the image of the problem and my workaround with the green lines being annotation-drawn lines.

 

 

[EATREVITPOOPCAD]

Hover over the line you want to dimension and hit Tab a few times until the line you want to snap to is selected

[Revit_Whisperer]

If you use your tab key, you should be able to dimension to other layers in that wall.

[barthbradley]

Go to Manage Tab=>Snap Settings and see if it looks like this:  

[msupron]

Thank you, the TAB helps to snap to the face of the blockwork on a normal part of a wall, but for some reason does not allow that at the returns (wraps). This is the case for both the opening/insert and the end of a wall. 

@barthbradley the snap menu looks exactly the same

 

 

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

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@msupron wrote:

Thank you, the TAB helps to snap to the face of the blockwork on a normal part of a wall, but for some reason does not allow that at the returns (wraps). This is the case for both the opening/insert and the end of a wall. 

@barthbradley the snap menu looks exactly the same

 

 

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You are correct.  You can't snap a dimension to a internal line of a wall wrap.  You need a workaround.  Some of them:

- place ref plane to witness dimension

- model the return at the wall's end/insert as another wall

- add ref planes with instance dimension parameters to insert family to witness dimensions in project

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

Wall Wraps?  No wonder you can't snap to them.  They're cosmetic with no BIM value.  That's why we gave up on them long along - that, plus they don't quantify in Schedules. 

Your workaround is valid, but it would be better to model the wrapping layers.  IMO.  

[msupron]

Yeah, I have managed to create reference planes within families to snap to. For some reason, it has not worked initially, but luckily I have played around a bit and they snap now. Thanks a lot for the explanation and listing other potential work around methods!