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Bloated PDFs generated from interior elevation sheet.

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Sahay_R
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Bloated PDFs generated from interior elevation sheet.

What could be the cause of bloated PDFs? An interior elevation sheet with all the non rectangular crop regions reset still prints out to a larger pdf than it should! What else should be checked out?


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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

-How many views are on the sheet?

-Fine Detail Level?

-Lots of Fill patterns, filled regions and/or masking regions?

-View Templates applied to limit number of categories on in views?

-Lots of Linked Revit files? If so, how about VG settings for them?

-Linked Cad?

-Raster Images?

 

 

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

If it is forced to print as Raster then the PDF file size is much bigger than Vector.
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

Thank you @cbcarch. So do you recommend that the view template keep all categories on, with display being controlled by filters? I would not be surprised if that were a part of the problem. 

 

@ToanDN - I will check with the person who generated the prints. When I created the PDFs they are smaller than what I see in the Project folder. 

 


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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

@cbcarch - Cliff, when you mention fill patterns, regions, etc does that include painted on materials?

 

To answer your questions - 

 

12 views

Fine detail
Some filled regions - maybe 2

View templates do control categories

Only 4 linked Revit files

Yes to linked CAD, also imported in families.

No Raster images


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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

-Yes--materials painted onto elements can use a lot of resources when printing.

-As mentioned by others, Raster vs Vector can affect output file size, as well as printer driver use and other settings such as "Presentation Quality", Color vs Black & White, etc.

-Are you printing Hidden Line Views?

or Shaded, Consistent Colors or Realistic with shadows, etc.?

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

@cbcarch - hidden line views - I'm not brave enough to try Shaded or above....


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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

Just curious--

-Have you experienced this on other projects, or just this one?

-How much RAM does the machine you print from have?

-Do all users experience the file bloat?

- Are you using a PDF plug-in, like Acrobat or Bluebeam?

-Raster or Vector settings?

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

@cbcarch - 

 

Just experienced on this one

32 GB of RAM

This is the first time I have heard of file bloat since I started here

PDF plugin that I am using is Foxit Phantom PDF

Printing to Vector

 

 


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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

I'm stumped - I've reset the crop regions, removed any fill patterns - painted and regions - and nothing has changed....and these are the print settings that I have been using - 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

Post a bloated PDF file here and we shall see.

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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

@ToanDN - here you are.....in all 2238kb of its glory.....


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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

Have you tried Color or Black Lines instead of grayscale?

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

@cbcarch - No, not yet. However, bumping down the detail of the views from Fine to Medium halved the PDF size.


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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

So my reply #2 above solved it?

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

@cbcarch - partially - the sheet is still above 1MB. Similar sheets from comparable projects (similar size, content, families, number of views, identical view template and print settings) are still smaller than that - hence the concern.


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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

Were the other jobs printed in grayscale as well?

Any reason for using grayscale?

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

Yes, they were. Our office standards are to greyscale things that are NIC for the GC.....


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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

Perhaps you could use a Filter for the grayscale, with parameters for the elements which are NIC?

This way you could use normal black lines print settings and it might reduce the PDF file size.

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: cbcarch

Tried that, @cbcarch. Both B/W and greyscale give me the same PDF file size......

 

Now - would editing image resolution in the Printer Properties affect the quality of the output?

 

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