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Best way to setup floor slabs with finish

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Anonymous
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Best way to setup floor slabs with finish

Hi,

Just been a bit confused as to how to show floors with different finishes off a slab.  A uni mate tells me he sees a lot of drawings coming into their works ( he's part time ) that have the concrete slab as one level and then the other materials on top of that are drawn on individually depending upon what the particular room may require.  I thought the idea was to set up the floor with all the material in it ( IE concrete slab, insulation, tiled floor finish, etc ). He says doing it this way helps with alterations as its easier to amend a floor finish ( say from tiles to carpet ) without affecting the below floor material?  Is this the right way to design?

Help!!

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hi @Anonymous,

The workflow you describe is pretty good.

As a fact, floors finishing change from one room to another, but the underlying structure doesn't.

 

Two methods are at work out there:

  1. Paint parts of the floor with materials, allows basic takeoff and rendering - most common workflow
  2. Overlay floors, one for the structural part and the other one for the finishing - allows every kind of takeoff and everything, but requires a constant checking of every area having a finishing and a checking of heights (different finishing thickness will still need to interact with the underlay)

The best workflow from my point of view is a mix and a twist:

 

Model a floor that covers the whole surfaces and intergrates structure, everything INCLUDING THE THINNER FINISH

Model your other different finishes as floors (different tiles, carpet, paint, etc, and then JOIN GEOMETRY (modify>geometry>join)

If you want to PAINT a surface, use the paint bucket alongside the splitting face tool

 

That way, you will not only get the material takeoff, but the impact of different finishes onto your concrete slab geometry or your timber frame global geometry, as volumes will substract automatically! (so inc. volume, calculations, etc)

 

Hope this helps, 

 

Cheers,

 

François

 



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

Thanks for the quick reply.  So in essence what I should do is this -

 

Floor ( Structural )

Concrete Slab 150mm

Insulation 100mm

Floor finish 25mm ( but not state material )

TOTAL Floor Thickness = 275mm

 

Then apply this to the building in its entirety.  Then paint a 25mm floor tile over the top to give the finished floor an actual finish.

 

Or should I not have an (unknown ) 25mm floor finish in the initial floor make up?


Sorry if sounding daft, only just starting out with Revit!!

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Paint tool only changes the material, not the geometry, or thickness of the
finish. I would only use split face and paint if the finishes are of the
same type and thickness, e.g. different carpets. For different types and
thicknesses such as carpet versus tile versus wood, I would create
different floor types to account for the actual changes in the thickness of
the finish layer.
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Paint tool only changes the material, not the geometry, or thickness of the
finish. I would only use split face and paint if the finishes are of the
same type and thickness, e.g. different carpets. For different types and
thicknesses such as carpet versus tile versus wood, I would create
different floor types to account for the actual changes in the thickness of
the finish layer.
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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

It is A correct workflow.

 

And in most cases it will be sufficient!

 

So go for it,

And if you want o go a bit further, draw a floor that contains your tiling + cement, and then add geometry.

Adding to object of the same category (floors for example) performs two tasks: it adds the geometry (well, of course), and substracts the overlapping parts according to the order in which you pick your objects. So if you decide to do it, pick your finishing first, and then your main floor!

What is nice is that doing it this way, you will be able to see the different finishing in a section cut! (but it all depends on how much of zooming you want!)

 

Congrats on using Revit,

It is a bit intimidating at first, but I can garantee you that once you get a knack on it, you never go back!

 

Cheers,

 

François



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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