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best practices for siding profiles??

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Message 1 of 19
georgehobel
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best practices for siding profiles??

Clapboard or lap siding..

I know I can select, or create a material that will display as siding, and I can modify the graphics to show or not show in 2D / 3D drawings... but I want the siding to also show in section view.. I can accomplish this by creating a "clapboard" profile and apply as a sweep the the wall type.  Can that sweep be locked to the wall height?  Is that the best way to accomplish my intent?

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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Message 2 of 19
barthbradley
in reply to: georgehobel

Horizontal? Use wall sweeps.  

Message 3 of 19
georgehobel
in reply to: barthbradley

yes horizontal.. 

do you mean an individual sweep for each course of siding, or one large "sheet" profile that goes from base of wall to top of wall?

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 4 of 19
ToanDN
in reply to: georgehobel

You can add sweeps to the highest height that you need. When the wall is lower the sweeps will be truncated to match the wall height.
Message 5 of 19
barthbradley
in reply to: georgehobel

That's what I'm thinking.  Ship-lapped; right?  Might be easier as a Curtain Wall though.  

Message 6 of 19
georgehobel
in reply to: ToanDN

that's what i was expecting to happen... but it didnt.. 

My wife just asked me what i was doing so i told her i was sweeping... she said , "its about time"

 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 7 of 19
georgehobel
in reply to: barthbradley

sweeping and curtains.... 

next thing you know I'll be doing ironing and baking bread

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 8 of 19
barthbradley
in reply to: georgehobel

No. Siding as CW Panels.  But, as Wall Sweeps it will work too. Just Array one or two sweeps.  They'll get truncated  automatically when you attach to Gable Roof. Is that what you mean?  

 

Whole bunch of wall sweeps truncated on attachment of wall to roof and joining geometry with roof:

 

Wall Sweep Attach.png

Message 9 of 19
ToanDN
in reply to: georgehobel


@georgehobel wrote:

that's what i was expecting to happen... but it didnt.. 

My wife just asked me what i was doing so i told her i was sweeping... she said , "its about time"

 


It should work if you stack multiple sweeps in the wall type.  Do not use a large single sheet of sweeps.

 

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Message 10 of 19
georgehobel
in reply to: barthbradley

yes...that's what I mean... 

Honestly, I have not been applying the siding that way till now.  What I have been doing shows up fine in the 3D and 2D, just not in the sections.  If I needed it in section view, I would just drag it in as a detail group.  

 

Doing it this way should make it show as it's supposed to in my sections.. i think...

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 11 of 19
barthbradley
in reply to: georgehobel

Plan:

 

WS1.png

 

Section:

 

WS2.png

Elevation:

 

WS3.png

Message 12 of 19
georgehobel
in reply to: georgehobel

I tried copying an array of the sweep in the wall type, but that does not seem possible. (at least when working within the wall type modification menu)... so I simply stacked 20 plus layers of a lap siding profile, one on top of the other, and it works fine.  just like you said, it all truncates when it gets to the roof... 

I still wonder if there's a better way because sometimes i will attach a wall to the roof at a large gable.. and if I only have 16' of siding applied to that wall type, the siding will stop before it gets to the peak... 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 13 of 19
georgehobel
in reply to: barthbradley

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George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 14 of 19
barthbradley
in reply to: georgehobel


@georgehobel wrote:

I tried copying an array of the sweep in the wall type, but that does not seem possible. (at least when working within the wall type modification menu)... so I simply stacked 20 plus layers of a lap siding profile, one on top of the other, and it works fine.  just like you said, it all truncates when it gets to the roof... 

I still wonder if there's a better way because sometimes i will attach a wall to the roof at a large gable.. and if I only have 16' of siding applied to that wall type, the siding will stop before it gets to the peak... 


 

 

Personally, I would just array the siding, rather than building it into the wall type.  Seems like a lot of work to me.  Just saying.  

 

 

...this building shell has 4 different wall types. While you are still building the sweep into each and every wall type, I'm already finished and having a beer because I just arrayed all of the sweeps in one fell swoop.  Again, just saying ...and enjoying my beer while waiting here for you to get done. 

 

 

WS10.png

 

 

Message 15 of 19
ToanDN
in reply to: georgehobel


@georgehobel wrote:

I tried copying an array of the sweep in the wall type, but that does not seem possible. (at least when working within the wall type modification menu)... so I simply stacked 20 plus layers of a lap siding profile, one on top of the other, and it works fine.  just like you said, it all truncates when it gets to the roof... 

I still wonder if there's a better way because sometimes i will attach a wall to the roof at a large gable.. and if I only have 16' of siding applied to that wall type, the siding will stop before it gets to the peak... 


If the lower part of the walls (says 0 to 10 ft) will never hit a roof then you can create a 10' tall profile for the bottom sweep, from there on, use multiple smaller sweeps as usual, to as high as your drug takes you.

Message 16 of 19
georgehobel
in reply to: barthbradley

If I array a regular sweep of a siding profile attached to the outside of a wall, the windows wont cut it.. nor will the roof.. i think... 

 

It actually wasnt that bad... only took about 2 to 3 minutes to stack the siding in the wall type.  There was a warning that popped up telling me that something wouldnt work, and to check my sweep parameters, but it all looks fine.. I suppose that might bite me later.... till then I'm fine with it...

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 17 of 19
barthbradley
in reply to: georgehobel


@georgehobel wrote:

only took about 2 to 3 minutes to stack the siding in the wall type.  


 

Well, don't stop now; you got other wall types.  Certainly you got shear walls.  😉

 

 

Message 18 of 19
barthbradley
in reply to: georgehobel


@georgehobel wrote:

If I array a regular sweep of a siding profile attached to the outside of a wall, the windows wont cut it.. nor will the roof.. i think... 


 

Now I think you are just messing with me, George.

 

 

Too many windows cutting through arrayed sweeps for you?  Let me know.  

 

WS20.png

Message 19 of 19

@barthbradley Hi, I have the same problem. Can you make a video tutorial on how you be able to cut the profile siding for the gable roof. Looking forward for this.

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