is it true that the best practice is to model structural parts of walls and floors, then add the additional layers as overlaying separate elements?
somehow I find it absurd. was told that would be practical when delivering the model to the structural engineer.
but I am not convinced. the model we would use for:
- drawings
- calculations
- structural engineering
- visualisation
what do you guys think?
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Personally I always hate the term "Best Practices" as every situation is different. It depends on "IF" Revit is being used and if so to what level is the rest of the team able to work together. What is the intended end result even if both of these scenarios are true. Two of my clients worked together on a project what was tilt up concrete with architectural finishes on either side. The structural engineer used Parts from the linked arch model and went from there, no walls on the structural side. Most of the time my arch clients don't model the structural parts of floors only finish (both in residential and commercial), but that depends again on the level of modeling from the structural engineer. Other projects the engineering team isn't as well adept with Revit skills so the arch models all the structural columns. I think the biggest thing is on each project have a true and open conversation on what is needed and what are the capabilities of the the team. (I say team because each firm has strong and weak teams on modeling procedures and practices)
thanks @BDMackey
we are a team of approx 25 architects, draftsmen and engineers. we are now switching to revit, and in the process of developing a reliable workflow. most of our projects are similar, housing, the construction system we use is 95% of the time exactly the same (timber from the same company). Much of what we have done so far is almost always in the same way.
We are switching to revit because we hope we can integrate arch, structure, cost estimate, and archviz in a single package. neither our projects nor our expactations from revit are exceptional. what we would like to do is avoid any re-modeling works at any later stage. generally we always made a fairly detailed design at an early stage. we are still exploring the capacities of revit, and try to formulate a first workflow...
If you are an all in one firm then that cane make the experience really nice. Setting up processes that may take a bit longer to model in the forefront can give you great benefits in the overall efficiencies of the project. Having the template preset to give you most of the cost estimations, pre built details etc. For example I worked with a log home designer/builder and as they were modeling the building it would start giving them quantities of logs as well as estimations of labor etc. Some of it needed refinement later in the process but would give big picture costs to their clients as design changes were happening. There is a lot of potential to be had if alot of planning is done upfront.
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