Beam Joins In Two Planes

[mbuttimer]

I have modeled two beams, one that is sloping relative to horizontal the other is horizontal but its centerline is not co-linear with the sloped beam.  In short, their axes differ in two planes.  Is it possible to create a beam miter joint between the two?  They are the same type/size.  For the beam/column join command my understanding is that the beams need to share the same analytical point (blue dot).  This is not possible due to the two-plane discrepancy between the two, so I am unable to get the blue arrows to show.  Likewise, using a reference plane and the cut geometry command does not work.  I can cut the beams in one plane with a reference plane and the join is mitered but that doesn't solve the other plane.  

Any ideas for how to get this to work, if possible?

[Anonymous]

Can you post an image of the beams that you're trying to join?  It's difficult to try and visualise from your description.

[mbuttimer]

Beams in plan view:

Beams in elevation view:

[Anonymous]

You should be able to create a reference plane at the plane where you want to join the beams.  Cut the beams to the reference plane.  The reference plane is created at an angle in plan and then rotated in elevation.  The beams need to extend past the reference plane and then they can be cut.