Bay window area not included in room

[KentBurns]

Hey has anyone found a tidy way to get a room to include the area of a full height bay window?

In the past I've split walls to make them not room bounding, and added room bounding lines over the windows, but this is super time consuming and not at all efficient.

Additionally, it would be great to be able to control where the room bounds to within a window family generally, much like the wall closure parameter, as the default to the centre of the wall is not particularly helpful.

Thanks,

[FGPerraudin]

Hi @KentBurns,

Why don't you use a curtain wall instaed?

You could even use one with only one panel integrated being your window?

François-Gabriel

[Anonymous]

Curtain wall is a good suggestion.

You could also pick on the wall and make it non-bounding and then use room separation lines to include the bay window

[KentBurns]

I can do that with a normal wall - I shouldn't need to use room bounding lines to add the window area into a room is all I'm saying

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

If you don't want to split the wall to pieces then you can use a Wall Opening Cut at the location and the Room will "bleed" through the opening.  But you still need the Room boundary for the bay window, either via Curtain Walls, or Room separation lines.

[KentBurns]

I'll take that as a win for now - saves one step!

Thanks a lot!

[chrisplyler]

I couldn't figure out why you're default behavior wasn't having the room expanding into the bay. Then I suddenly realized...you're entire bay is a single Window family, right? So your main wall actually is continuous across the bay.

I never would have thought to do that in the first place. That - obviously - leaves you with a wall modeled where there will not actually be a wall. Sure, the Window family "cuts" out the wall visually, but the wall is really still modeled there.

[KentBurns]

The bay window was an exaggeration for my point, but the same issue occurs if you have a large wall build-up of say 550mm, if the window is at the front of the façade and occupying for example 120mm, your room is missing a the area between the wall centreline and the inside face of the glazing. Over a large building that .25 of a m2 can add up.

[chrisplyler]

Yeah, I get it now. I just wouldn't have thought about it if it weren't for this thread. I mean if you're making a window literally full height, is it still a window? I mean, would you order a premanufactured item at that point, and set it right on the floor and under the top plate? Or would you just use a storefront type window wall?