Autodesk Answer Day: Revit sheet issues

[Mirko.Jurcevic]

Why we cannot arrange elements on the sheet so on different sheets we can have floor plans arranged properly (on the same relative place on the each sheet)?

Why we can align section with floor plan on the sheet, but when we turn that section 90 degrees, we can't align it anymore? (there is no snap lines)

[robin_ballew]

Guide Grid Video

I think this is what you are looking for. Let me know if you need more information.

[Mirko.Jurcevic]

Thanks for the answer, but no, that's not what I am looking for (I am already familiar with grid system).

What I mean is next:

Imagine you have a project with 10 or more floors (levels), and for each level you are several floor plans, all of them on different sheets.

What I need to be able to do is to quickly arrange them on the same place, so when they are printed out, they will all be on the same place.

Currently I am using scope boxes and positions (also some of our internal custom Revit tools), but this is often "too manual", "hacking" and overkill so I cannot offer that to our clients (users using our project support).

Not to mention that "Sheet Grid" is not very precise. Engineers like to be precise.

[robin_ballew]

 I get what you want. I think sheet grid is the best solution. It's the only way to snap between a consistant location on the sheet and in the view. Sorry I think that's as good as it gets for now.

[dplumb_BWBR]

If the Guide Grid allowed different X and Y valiues, we might be able to use it.

But since the horizontal and vertical sizes of the Grid are locked to each other, we cannot create a Guide Grid that matches our Sheet modules and thus the feature is not of use to us.

[clara_csdrafting]

Have you tried adjusting your titleblock rfa by moving it from the default, so that when used in a project and dropping a view on a sheet, the blue cross indicating Origin (0,0) of your sheet is at center of your drawing space?  Instead of some random spot at bottom left-hand corner.  Placing the center of a view there puts it in a position where it's running off the sheet. 

[Mirko.Jurcevic]

Thanks for the replies!

What we did was we developed a tool that aranges multiple views accross multiple sheets based on the boundaries of the scope box of each selected view.

That way we can arrange all of the floor plans (or only some of the floor plans), sections etc. independently, but this is something that should be implemented into core Revit, there is much more what our "tool" should be able to do, and some things are not touchable through Revit API...

[Anonymous]

Robin, thank you for your response, but you must understand, that responses such as this only confirms to your customers that Autodesk DO NOT understand what we want, or more importantly, what we NEED. Everytime I see this question posed, guide grids is thrown at the person. I have NEVER once seen an Autodesk member ask "What can we do better for this tool to make it work for you?" 

[Anonymous]

I think both of you are right.

However for this specific topics I would say it can be done by Dynamo easily. I guess the API you were talking about follow the same logic (boundaries geometry) and aligned in the same position in a sheet space.

Of course, if Revit has this option it would be great.
However I'm not sure if it would be one of the most important thing to develope.

Also as you say scope box can be another way to do it...

If we are talking about skyscraper Dynamo or an API will be the choice for between 1 to 20 scope box would be OK.

Well, It is my view obviously.

[clara_csdrafting]

I must too add to the comment directed towards Robin / Autodesk:  Although not on this topic, on other topics (and I've experienced this on a previous Autodesk Answer Day.  Today was my 2nd AAD), I've been responded to with "go here to submit this as an idea" (link is provided).  Thanks for confirming that the software does not do what I need it to do.  I understand that contributing to the betterment of future releases could be the result in doing this.  Help us help you sort of thing.  However, this response does not aid current users in the here and now.  What would be a better response is: "This is a great idea.  I (Autodesk) will submit this on your behalf."  If needed they can private message the user to collect contact info or ask & have questions answered.

And the best response would be: "It is not possible with the current way you're thinking, but here's an alternative way to get close to what you're wanting to achieve with current Revit build".  If someone extracted information then troubleshooted with me (down in the trenches, so to speak) that person would have a friend for life!