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Architectural walls/floors and Structural walls/floors - correct/best process

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Anonymous
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Architectural walls/floors and Structural walls/floors - correct/best process

We're close to completion of our first revit model :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:

All walls, floors and roofs have been drawn as architectural walls and floors. Currently, our wall assembly is built with 2x6framing as the core and does not include any insulation in the wall cavity. From everything I've found in this forum, we should replace this core layer with insulation if we need insulation properly represented and usable for takeoff. I assume that is also the case if we need a correct energy analysis.

We just received the framing design from our structural engineers (unfortunately not drawn in Revit) and I now need to get that incorporated into our model. 

What is the correct/best workflow for doing this? My assumption is to redraw all walls, floors, roofs as "structure" on top of the architectural walls? If that's the case, is there a good way to copy them? Any advice would be appreciated.

 

 

 

Marc

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ToanDN
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@Anonymous wrote:

We're close to completion of our first revit model :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:

All walls, floors and roofs have been drawn as architectural walls and floors. Currently, our wall assembly is built with 2x6framing as the core and does not include any insulation in the wall cavity. From everything I've found in this forum, we should replace this core layer with insulation if we need insulation properly represented and usable for takeoff. I assume that is also the case if we need a correct energy analysis.

We just received the framing design from our structural engineers (unfortunately not drawn in Revit) and I now need to get that incorporated into our model. 

What is the correct/best workflow for doing this? My assumption is to redraw all walls, floors, roofs as "structure" on top of the architectural walls? If that's the case, is there a good way to copy them? Any advice would be appreciated.

 

 

 

Marc


I would create another structural model and link in the architectural model as the background for references.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

I thought about that. If it's just a single family structure, does anything speak against adding the structural walls in that model the way I described above. On the insulation question, would you then replace the stud wall layer with an insulation layer?

 

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ToanDN
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You could do that. You could also edit/duplicate the framing material and adjust the thermal values to match the insulation.
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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Agreed with @ToanDN,

 

Separate model is much better, and on top of that, I am sure that your engineer can throw an IFC file!

 

Energywise, you need to change the thermal properties of your filling material (it being the structure or the insulation) to match the composite properties (thermal properties of the assembly structure + insulation)

 

Hope this helps,

 

Cheers,

 

François



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
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