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after project upgrade to R2023: ceiling view can't place face-based

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after project upgrade to R2023: ceiling view can't place face-based

I have an older project with face-based light fixtures and diffusers. All worked fine in R2022.

 

I upgraded the project to R2023 since I need to make some changes. Now the very same families (not reloaded) can't be placed face-based. The option to switch to face-based are grayed out. This isn't an issue on floor plans. I tried multiple type of families, they all seem to have that behavior. Looks like something is wrong with ceiling views. 

I created a new ceiling view, same thing.

 

the former families (face based and hosted to the ceiling) also don't let me select a new host that is face-based. when I find a new host, it also only works plane-based. 

 

When I click "OK" and the pop-up goes away, the placement options un-gray for a second. 

 

any tricks to work around this? I can create a work plane since this is just a small change.  I guess. but if this was a larger project, this sure wouldn't work well. 

 

 

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Edit: I created a reference plane. Then I placed a diffuser on the reference plane. AFTER THAT I was able to place new families and am able to select the placement method (not grayed out anymore). I even could change the host of the family I had placed on that reference plane. My best guess is this shook something loose that got wrong. 

 

Hope this helps someone who runs into this. 

 

 

Revit version: R2025.4
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