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Adaptive Panels - Selecting multiple panels

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Anonymous
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Adaptive Panels - Selecting multiple panels

When editing adaptive panels in Revit, is there a way to select multiple panels of the same type without selecting it manually one by one?

 

When selecting 'all panels in this view' nothing happens.

 

When selecting 'All panels in this project' exactly double the amount of objects are selected and the parameters cannot be changed. for example, if you have 5 types of panel A, it will select 10 (twice) of these panels, as if each panel has a ghost element attached to it. The result is still that you cannot modify the multiple panels.

 

If you try to use a schedule, the schedule goes empty as soon as you go into editing the Mass. So it becomes useless.

 

The only way I've found of editing the panel's instance properties is to manually select one by one, which is obviously not efficient since all of Revit's traditional tools are rendered useless. If there is another way to select multiple patters so that we can edit their properties, I would be happy to learn about it. I have a project with 500+ adaptive panels and it is quite cumbersome to edit them in large numbers.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

I'm unclear. Adaptive Panels? What family are referring to? There is Curtain Wall Panel Families which adapt. There are Adaptive Families. There are Panel Pattern Based Families.  

 

Also, I'm not familiar with a "Select All Panels in this Project" or ""Select All Panels in this View".  Are you referring to the CW's "Select Panels on Host" selection filter? 

 

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Sorry for the lack of precision. I am referring to Adaptive Curtain Panels that are based on a divided massing surface.

The selection methods I used are right clicking on a panel and selecting: Select All Instances : 'Visible in View' or 'In Entire Project'.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

So it's a Pattern Based CW Panel applied to a Divided Surface?  Or is it an Adaptive Family applied to Divided Surface Nodes -- perhaps as a Repeater?   

 

BTW: Either way, "Select all Instances" of the Family (through Project Browser) should report accurately all the instances. So, I'm not understanding your or double-counting or  "ghosting" issue.  I cannot replicate.

 

Additionally, with respect to Pattern Based instances: I can change Instance Parameters per individual instance. But not so with Adaptive Repeater instances, which is understandable since Repeaters are copies.   

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Here is an example of the ghost double selection. A single panel was selection, when I do 'select all in project' it selects 2 objects and I cannot edit the panel properties.

 

Panel-DoubleSelection.jpg

 

I've attached a roughed up and simplified copy of the project so you can replicate the issue.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Strange. I don't get the same results as you do.  

 

Thinking....

 

 

Ghost.png

 

 

...Additionally, Schedule appear to accurately report count

 

GhostSchedule.png

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

The issues I am experiencing is that I am unable to change properties of the panel in a way that lets me mass select the panels.

 

So in these two methods, I wish I was able to modify the relevant properties of the panel, but it does not seem possible. To recap:

 

  • Individually selecting or using CTRL to select multiple: Can modify properties
  • Using Select all In view: Cannot modify properties
  • Using a schedule: Cannot modify properties

Our project has over 2500 panels, so it is quite tedious to have to select them one by one, where I could modify ~250 in one swoop using a mass selection techniques.

 

Also to specify, count is not a property that you could modify, but if you place a parameter like the glass material,  you won't be able to mass modify it in the panel. As far as i understand so far.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Why don't you make the parameters Type properties instead of Instance properties?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

@ToanDN: I'm glad you jumped in here. I just this moment discovered what @Anonymous is referring to when he speaks about "ghosts" being counted. 

 

When in the Mass editing environment, the pattern-based panels are indeed being double-counted when you tab-select on one panel, right-click and pick "Select all Instances"=>"In Entire Project" in the drop-down box.  However, if you tab-select on one panel, right-click and pick "Select all Instances"=>"Visible in View" in the drop-down box - nothing gets selected.  ZERO Instances are detected .  

 

Conversely, if you do the exact same thing outside of the Mass editing environment - that is, tab-select on one panel, right-click and pick "Select all Instances"=>"In Entire Project" in the drop-down box - an accurate count in reported in the View Properties. But, if you tab-select on one panel, right-click and pick "Select all Instances"=>"Visible in View" in the drop-down box -  ZERO Instances are selected/detected - not even the source panel.  

 

What do you think?  Can you explain this behavior? 

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

While some of these parameters are Types, the ones I have as instances are meant to be instances to limit the use of Types.

 

For example: Window type, glass materials, etc.

 

Still, you should be able to use both types of properties with relative ease.

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