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3D wall pattern plotting issue

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kgatzke
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3D wall pattern plotting issue

I have three walls.  Let's call them A, B & C

 

Wall A is a masonry wall with a custom brick pattern.  

Wall B is a screen wall with a transparent custom rectangular pattern.

Wall C is exactly the same as wall A but curves in plan.

 

For a 3D view with orientation saved and locked in isometric:

 

Wall A's pattern is visible on screen but does not plot.

Wall B's pattern is not visible on screen and does not plot.

Wall C's pattern is not visible on screen and does plot!

 

No view template is in effect.  Walls are visible with no overrides in Visibility/Graphic Overrides.  One Graphic Override for half-tone was applied to Wall A.

 

Can anyone explain this?

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Darin.Green
als Antwort auf: kgatzke

Clearly walls "B & C" is a graphics issue. I'm not sure what type of graphics card you have, but update it with the latest driver from the vendor's website. In regards to plotting them, try adjusting your plot settings by setting Raster Processing & Raster Quality to High.

 

revit plotting.jpg

 

UPDATE:

If this doesn't work, try adjusting your plotter settings instead by increasing the quality.



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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: Darin.Green

Updated drivers (NVidia Quadro K2200 fyi).  No effect on the B & C issue.

 

Tried raster on plotting.  Trippled the PDF size and dropped some of the other panels.

 

The screens disappear when I zoom out so it's some issue with something choosing what to render based on density to prevent hatches from going solid.

There better be a way to adjust this or turn it off.

 

blame tools.PNG

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: kgatzke

Have you tried to increase the PDF printer quality settings?

As a test, use Export to create an PNG image from your 3D view. You may want to try several different resolutions from low to high until you get what you want. Use that as a base to calculate the necessary resolution and quality of the PDF printer.
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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

The isometric stands 16" tall on the sheet.  The PDF printer is currently set at 600 dpi.  That's a total of 9600 pixels vertically.  So I tested at the PDF printer's maximum resolution of 4000 dpi, or 64,000 vertical pixels.

 

overkill.png

 

It still drops the flat screens but all the curved ones rendered.  It's not the resolution or the printer.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: kgatzke

Can you extract a portion of the model that includes a flat and a curve pieces and post the Revit file here?
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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

The extracted portions behave a little differently from inside the project.

While I can't see the flat screens in the project I can see them in the extract.

The results of printing to a PDF result in dropping a different set of screens from earlier project based printings.

 

The extraction lacks some of the project's levels, view, sheet and printing settings.  I don't know how to get those without trimming a copy of the whole project but even with purging I can't get that down below 10 MB.

 

 

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loboarch
als Antwort auf: kgatzke

I would try a different PDF writer. I tried CutePDF and everything printed just fine.


Jeff Hanson
Principal Content Experience Designer
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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: loboarch

Our security bot thinks cutepdf is a virus and their executable has unknown publisher so I tried Adobe (we use Bluebeam) on a colleague's machine.

 

It still dropped some panels.

 

computer says no.PNG

 

Notice it didn't render the outline of the spiral stair's handrail either.  I can't even see the handrail's edges on my screen.

 

The panels render fine in elevation by the way.  I think the problem is Revit is not sending the panels to the printer so it wouldn't matter what pdf printer I used.  I'll still get the same results.

 

It may have worked for you with cuteftp but remember you're only working with a 3 MB excerpt, not the whole project.   The flat panels in the full model are not visible on my screen no matter how far I try to zoom in to the sheet.  I didn't have this problem with the excerpt probably because it doesn't include the 497 MB of the rest of the project.   I don't know what else I can do besides fake it with some 2D graphics which is going to waste a lot of my time.

 

 

 

 

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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: loboarch

Found a machine with CutePDF.

 

Same result.

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loboarch
als Antwort auf: kgatzke

I am not sure what the issue is, but I was able to get a PDF with all of the "screen" around the stair using CutePDF. I think the issue is on the PDF creation side rather than the Revit side. I was using Revit 2017 and I think your file upgraded when I opened so perhaps that is the issue? Maybe try printing it with 2017 and see if that yields better results.

 

2016-08-03_1030.png

 

The weird vertical lines on the cage go away when i zoom in and it looks fine.



Jeff Hanson
Principal Content Experience Designer
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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: loboarch

I can't just upgrade to 2017 like it was nothing.  I've got ten people working on this project here and 8 linked revit files that all have to get upgraded too!  Plus we're getting reports from consultants that conversion to 2017 in other projects is screwing up their text and notes so we're holding off on this upgrade till we can test it in house when we don't have some looming deadline (which is pretty much all the time.)

 

Can't you test printing it in 2016?

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loboarch
als Antwort auf: kgatzke

I printed in 2016. Using vector processing I lost panels like you are seeing. Switched to use raster processing and all the panels printed.  I am not sure if someone already suggested raster processing earlier in the thread, but you can try that.

 

2016-08-03_1052.png



Jeff Hanson
Principal Content Experience Designer
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: kgatzke

I would try export to DWF and print it to PDF. I am on a trip so I can test it right now.
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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: loboarch

this is fine.PNG

 

I've come full circle back to the way things were printing when this all started. Thank you.

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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

for what pvrpose.PNG

It did this to the whole sheet, even on raster with quality set to high.  I can't imagine this being acceptable to anyone.  

I also tried DWG.  It dropped all the panels.

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kgatzke
als Antwort auf: loboarch

When you rotate the view around the model do you see some of the panels vanish and reappear?  It's like there's a setting where if an angle between the screen and normal to the viewer becomes too obtuse the display of the screen is dropped.  Is there any way to turn this off so that the screens and their surface patterns remain visible no matter what the angle or distance to the viewer is?

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