2016 - Rotate Project North

[Anonymous]

Hi Everybody,

we are working on a huge project (Revit 2016, File Size 280MB) and have already done a lot (including annotations, almost everything).

Now the builder decided to rotate the views in the sheets and we have to rotate the hole thing because of it (i know, not a good idea...). Anyway, the structural engineer have already done it and we have to do it too.

I removed all the links and tried to rotate the project north. It run through the night for like 12 hours and nothing happened (not responding, this actually happens already at the beginning.) Does someone have a good recomendation? Have I forgot something? Can I do something to make it work? 

Thank you!!!

[Anonymous]

Hi Everybody,

we are working on a huge project (Revit 2016, File Size 280MB) and have already done a lot (including annotations, almost everything).

Now the builder decided to rotate the views in the sheets and we have to rotate the hole thing because of it (i know, not a good idea...). Anyway, the structural engineer have already done it and we have to do it too.

I removed all the links and tried to rotate the project north. It run through the night for like 12 hours and nothing happened (not responding, this actually happens already at the beginning.) Does someone have a good recomendation? Have I forgot something? Can I do something to make it work? 

Thank you!!!

[rodrigo.bezerra]

Hi @Anonymous

Rotating project north is a slow task, specially with a highly developed model. You can even lose some annotation in the process. But unless you're dowing in a powerless hardware, you'll get some result at the end. 

Please, enlight "nothing happened" and "not responding". Did Revit crash without completing the task? Or did it return several warning messages?

Regards

[rodrigo.bezerra]

Hi @Anonymous

Rotating project north is a slow task, specially with a highly developed model. You can even lose some annotation in the process. But unless you're dowing in a powerless hardware, you'll get some result at the end. 

Please, enlight "nothing happened" and "not responding". Did Revit crash without completing the task? Or did it return several warning messages?

Regards

[Anonymous]

Hi Rodrigo,

thanks for your answer. the hardware isn't actually bad, we have good machines at the office.

after i hit rotate, Revit stops to respond immediately, but i am used to it - it doesn't respond always when i try to do something hard and it just comes back when its finished. It didn't crash and didn't return any message. i can't even open or close the window (the task manager says that it is not responding)... I could try to let it do through the weekend, for about 50 hours...

Regards

[Anonymous]

Hi Rodrigo,

thanks for your answer. the hardware isn't actually bad, we have good machines at the office.

after i hit rotate, Revit stops to respond immediately, but i am used to it - it doesn't respond always when i try to do something hard and it just comes back when its finished. It didn't crash and didn't return any message. i can't even open or close the window (the task manager says that it is not responding)... I could try to let it do through the weekend, for about 50 hours...

Regards

[rodrigo.bezerra]

I don't think will make any difference... Specially because it is not supposed to last so long to rotate the project.

So you're saying it is still not responding right now? From the moment it start several hours ago?

[rodrigo.bezerra]

I don't think will make any difference... Specially because it is not supposed to last so long to rotate the project.

So you're saying it is still not responding right now? From the moment it start several hours ago?

[Anonymous]

i let the computer doing it yesterday and forced to close revit today, 24 hours later... now i started rotating again, same same... =/

[Anonymous]

i let the computer doing it yesterday and forced to close revit today, 24 hours later... now i started rotating again, same same... =/

[rodrigo.bezerra]

It is hard to tell you exactly the problem without looking into it, but I can give you a workaround - that I hate, by the way - but will fit for now...

The viewport crop and orientation can be set by a scope box, so you may do one, rotate to fit your needs, and assign to crop your documentation views. It's not an elegant way do solve the problem, but I know that he don't always have the time that takes to do better.

[rodrigo.bezerra]

It is hard to tell you exactly the problem without looking into it, but I can give you a workaround - that I hate, by the way - but will fit for now...

The viewport crop and orientation can be set by a scope box, so you may do one, rotate to fit your needs, and assign to crop your documentation views. It's not an elegant way do solve the problem, but I know that he don't always have the time that takes to do better.

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous

Does Revit also hang when you do it as follows:

Go to Site view >> (Make sure both Project base point and survey point are clipped)

1. On the site view select the Project base Point
2. Enter in the Angle to True North ... the rotation angle you need

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous

Does Revit also hang when you do it as follows:

Go to Site view >> (Make sure both Project base point and survey point are clipped)

1. On the site view select the Project base Point
2. Enter in the Angle to True North ... the rotation angle you need

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Thanks everybody!

I hit the rotate button on Friday before I left the office and it run through the weekend. Revit took 50 hours to rotate everything (again, I actually don't have a bad hardware, it really takes forever), but it worked! Much better than Revit 2015, but not perfect yet. Many plumbing fixtures didn't rotate, but i could group them and rotate manually...

Cheers!

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Thanks everybody!

I hit the rotate button on Friday before I left the office and it run through the weekend. Revit took 50 hours to rotate everything (again, I actually don't have a bad hardware, it really takes forever), but it worked! Much better than Revit 2015, but not perfect yet. Many plumbing fixtures didn't rotate, but i could group them and rotate manually...

Cheers!

[dc]

Thanks for the comments here. I have the same need, different problem. I've been doing a model of the interior of a covered stadium, 60,000 seats, using inconsistent CAD design drawings as backgrounds. Blah (floors and columns are misaligned with a variety of horizontal and vertical scaling errors)! Being concerned with the interior, I set Project North as the north-most axis of the building. Meanwhile, unknown to me, somebody else did a slick model of the  exterior skin, possibly using a point cloud. They used true north as project north. Of course the origin is different than mine. I'm trying to link the models to help me verify the wall boundaries that I derived from the sketchy CAD. They insert at different angles. I can manage the translation problem, but the rotation is a bit more challenging. Since the exterior model is MUCH smaller than mine, I've decided to rotate its project north instead of mine. I tested this on a companion model of the exterior landscaping, which took some tens of minutes. The exterior skin model is still chugging away, though. Thanks to this thread, at least I know it's not dead. Update. About a half an hour.

[dc]

Thanks for the comments here. I have the same need, different problem. I've been doing a model of the interior of a covered stadium, 60,000 seats, using inconsistent CAD design drawings as backgrounds. Blah (floors and columns are misaligned with a variety of horizontal and vertical scaling errors)! Being concerned with the interior, I set Project North as the north-most axis of the building. Meanwhile, unknown to me, somebody else did a slick model of the  exterior skin, possibly using a point cloud. They used true north as project north. Of course the origin is different than mine. I'm trying to link the models to help me verify the wall boundaries that I derived from the sketchy CAD. They insert at different angles. I can manage the translation problem, but the rotation is a bit more challenging. Since the exterior model is MUCH smaller than mine, I've decided to rotate its project north instead of mine. I tested this on a companion model of the exterior landscaping, which took some tens of minutes. The exterior skin model is still chugging away, though. Thanks to this thread, at least I know it's not dead. Update. About a half an hour.