RCP in AutoCAD Scan Misalignment

[subs]

After only generating RCS's in the past and insert those into AutoCAD and 3DS MAX, I've recently started added RCP's in some cases giving the client the option to turn individual scans on/off in the AutoCAD Pointcloud Manager.  Everything has been great until now.

I inserted an RCP of a wrecked vehicle in AutoCAD 2017.  When the RCP attached, it displayed with one very odd result, Scan001 is misaligned.  It is the left side of the vehicle and the scan is approximately 5 feet forward and 1 foot outward of where it should be.  Even more bizarre, not the entire scan moved.  The front half of the scan is where it should be, the rear half of the scan is the part that is offset.  The disconnecting seam as a vertical slice through the front door.

So to recap (a-hum), only one scan is in the wrong place and only half of the scan in in the wrong place.

Totally weird. 

Buck Wyckoff

BDSI

[john.vellek]

Hi @subs,

This issue sounds like something happened in the registration in Recap. Would you like me to move this thread to that forum? Are you able to share your data (or sample data that has the same problem)?

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

[subs]

Unfortunately I cannot. When the case settles I can, but that may be quite a ways away.

Everything looks normal in the ReCap project and the unified rcs is fine.

It was the first scan in the registration.

[john.vellek]

Hi @subs,

@anil_mistry might be able to offer further suggestions on this.  I don't work in Recap so I don;t know if re-importing the data would make a difference in the registration or not.

I have not seen this issue on the AutoCAD side of things before.

[subs]

I haven't either, but I've only inserted about a dozen rcp's in AutoCAD.  Maybe it was a rare occurrence.  We'll see.

Thx

[jasonbayer7965]

did you try to bring it into navisworks or revit?

[yan.fu]

Could you attach a screenshot of the issue?

Have you created any region or clip for that part of scan? 

[subs]

That's not part of my workflow.  Don't use those programs.

[subs]

RCP Issue 1 and 2 show Scan1 by itself and with the other scans on in Recap.  No problem there.

I do not make regions.

RCP Issue CAD1, 2, 3 show rcp loaded in AutoCAD2017.  1 - Scan 1 by itself.  2- Scan one chops in half with the rear portion thrown forward when Scan 2 is turned on.  Turns out the problem scan is fine by itself,  Toggle on any other scan in the Pointcloud Manager and Scan one changes to the messed up display.   3 - is Scan 3 by itself for reference.

(okay, this interface will not let me attach all 5.  The other three are in the next post)

[subs]

.... the other three images

[yan.fu]

It looks like the registration information is not carried over to AutoCAD.

Are you using the same .rcp file? Could you try to save the project and then close this project in ReCap and then attach it to AutoCAD?

Thank you,

Yan

[jasonbayer7965]

if you have it open in autocad, and make a change and save, the autocad being open with the scan will sometimes stop the change from being applied.

try to throw it in navisworks, or post your files.   you probably own navisworks,  it comes with the bundles.

[anil_mistry]

Hi @subs,

I'm just checking in to see if you need more help with this. Did the suggestion that @yan.fu and @jasonbayer7965 provided work for you?

If so, please click Accept as Solution on the posts that helped you so others in the community can find them easily.

[subs]

No, it is not a solution and I fail to see how someone could accept it as such, especially without the source files to even know if it works or not.

I'm not going to "throw" it into Navisworks or Revit as I don't use those programs.  I send the CAD file to the client (which is my product to them) and they do not use those programs, so I fail to see how doing that matters.  Even if it did work.  Who cares?  I brought into 3DS Max and it was messed up there as well.   So...  I'm just telling Autodesk there is an issue.  Their software is buggin', not me.

Obviously having the source material would be the only way Autodesk can reasonably look at the problem.  I cannot provide that material.

Like I said before, after the case settles, sure.  Until then, we'll see if it ever come up again.

[subs]

Thanks for the suggestion.  The RCP file was already a newly saved version of the edited RCP.  I do that to force the RCP I give my clients to have a clean associated Support folder with points removed (since Recap is really sloppy about that).  Both the unedited RCP, the edited RCP and the client saved RCP exhibit the same problem.

The project was a few scans in a warehouse and everything was Auto managed by ReCap from import to index.  I could do that all over, but the clean-up of the scans is a real pain and I'm not doing that all over again (which I couldn't bill my client for).

[anil_mistry]

Hi @subs,

Would you be able to share your project data with me for further investigation? If you can then let me know and we will send you A360 project invite. 

Thank you and have a great day!

[subs]

(see above....twice)

[yan.fu]

Could you try to update your AutoCAD 2017 to newer version to see if the issue is gone?

There was some inconsistent issue for edited and optimized rcp in some older version.

[subs · Accepted solution]

Inserted an RCP project yesterday and it was fine.  It has always been fine except for the one time.  Not a recurring problem.

Just letting you guys know it can happen.

If it plagues me, I'll work on a solution.  So far, just a wtf blip.

[anil_mistry]

Hi @subs,

Thank you for your reply and I am glad to hear that the issue is now resolved. Please, let me know if you are running into this issue again.

Thank you and have a great day!