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PM Robot Solver SimPost 1 or 2 ?

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RAL6000
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PM Robot Solver SimPost 1 or 2 ?

Hello together,

I have a question to the Documentation of PM Robot (Training Manual).

There is explained that we can choose out of three types of solvers.

 

1. What is a solver?

2. What is the difference between SimPost V1 and V2 ?

 

PM Solver Simpost.png


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kind regards Stefan,
Milling robot integrator | Germany
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RAL6000
in reply to: RAL6000

 

Anyone from Autodesk who could help?

 

I tried to find another way for getting an answer by the Support Request Portal.

Problem there is that I can´t choose PowerMill in given Software Combo Box.

 

 


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kind regards Stefan,
Milling robot integrator | Germany
Message 3 of 12
RAL6000
in reply to: RAL6000

*push*

 

I tried to get help by opening a Support Case but I can´t choose PowerMill in the Software List.

 

Autodesk PowerMill Support.png


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kind regards Stefan,
Milling robot integrator | Germany
Message 4 of 12

Hi RAL 600,

 

A solver is an algorithm, coded in PowerMill.

It is the solver that generates the simulation, or solution from all the options selected in the Robot  Control tab.

 

All the options you select are "used" by the solver to create a unique solution. I can't really put it in a simpler way.

 

The difference between SIMPOST 1 and 2 is hard to explain.

The code is different and so the end result is also different. 

 

PowerMill Robot has had some development since the it's start and so have the solvers, SIMPOST 1 was used at the start, and SIMPOST 2 is a developed version of SIMPOST1.

 

If you want more on the solver difference let me know and  I can try and get more information. 

 

Alex



Alexandre Pinto
Process Specialist
Message 5 of 12

Ok so the Solver is like THE BRAIN of PM-Robot.

 

Yes I would like to have more details about the difference of V1 to V2.

 

Thanks for your help in advanced 🙂

 

 


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kind regards Stefan,
Milling robot integrator | Germany
Message 6 of 12

Stefan,

 

 

Simpost 1 is the older version, created specifically for use on Robot virtual machines. PowerMill has other post files that can be used on machine tools. But simpost was the first post created specifically for robots.

Takes into account robot specifics like axis priorities, external axis etc, no such thing on a machine tool etc.

 

Simpost 2 is an recent version, created to include a few new function is the software. They both work on a robot with externals.

 

 

I am unable to provide you with more information tan this.

 

I hope this helps.



Alexandre Pinto
Process Specialist
Message 7 of 12

Ok... so its my job to find out what would be the better one for me...Smiley Frustrated

 

Anyway!

thanks for your help!Smiley Happy


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kind regards Stefan,
Milling robot integrator | Germany
Message 8 of 12

Stefan.

 

I recommend you use simpost 2. 

 

I cant give you more information as it is not available. I hope you understand.

 

 



Alexandre Pinto
Process Specialist
Message 9 of 12

actually I use simpost 1 so I will give it a try during the next weeks.




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kind regards Stefan,
Milling robot integrator | Germany
Message 10 of 12
RAL6000
in reply to: RAL6000

I would like to give some Feedback...

 

I compared the programs between SimPost 1 and 2.

 

Only difference which i see is that in V2 are sometimes more Points (i dont know why and where on the toolpath) and there are small differences in the positions like 0.xxx mm, mainly on Position/angle "A", "X,Y,Z,B,C" are mainly the same or very Close.


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kind regards Stefan,
Milling robot integrator | Germany
Message 11 of 12
casmith7890
in reply to: RAL6000

SimPost 1 is what PowerMILL Robot Interface always used in the past. If you are happy with the performance of PowerMILL Robot, stick with it.

 

SimPost 2 is the new implementation to make the robot faster, and hopefully more reliable. If you are having problems with the speed or reliability of SimPost 1, use this one. The aim was to replace SimPost 1, so it should be as close as possible to SimPost 2 in the results.

 

Pieper is an extremely fast solver that only works for 6 axis robots, so is only applicable to certain robots.

Message 12 of 12

Hi,

 

I have not experienced more points!

Are you saying that the same toolpath simulated with Solver 1 and 2 will generate a file with different number of points?

That is strange.

 

Simpost 2 is still under development and we have found some issues with robot + external axis.

If you need the speed you can use Simpost2, if not I would recommend staying with Simpost1.

 

Simpost1 is my recommendation.

 

Alex



Alexandre Pinto
Process Specialist

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