Points Layout Problems

[Anonymous]

Where are the documentation and step by step training manual's for AUTODESK Points Layout 2017?

Where are the online training videos for this software.  NOT ADVERSEMENTS, but REAL TRAINING VIDEOS?

[zach.crumal]

Hi there is an user guide downloaded and available when you download the software, available under the Point Layout folder after install, or available as a link in the software itself under User Guide. What platform are you working in (Revit, AutoCAD, Navisworks)? I can help assist with some video guide content. Thank you

[Anonymous]

Autodesk is severely lacking in documentation and technical assistance for the APL Platform.

APL Points should be visible in ALL VIEWS, and SELECTABLE in ALL VIEWS. NOT, visible in some, and selectable in some.

Exporting APL Points for TOP CON should not be this cumbersome and time consuming.

It is a twenty step process to export Revit files to DXF, and have them usable in TOP CON Magnet Construct software.

Exported .dxf files are so full of garbage, it is impossible to use them without spending an incredible amount of time to clean them up so they function in the Magnet Construct Software.

We went with Autodesk APL Points layout in Revit to get away from the Autodesk AutoCAD process in HILTI's software, and we are spending more time in APL. Much more time.

Why is it that the most critical piece of software, responsible for the placing of x, y, and z coordinates and vertical control is so poorly thought out and so poorly supported?

[s.hamel]

First thing to understand is that APL covers a whole lot of different workflows, as well as being used by a whole lot of different user types and trades. So what works for one will not always work for another.  

I think once you have your best workflow nailed down, you will find that points only showing up appropriately in different views is a good thing.  But first we need to get that workflow figured out.  

I will assume that at this time you have the point creation part down, whether manual, automated, or in family.  If you have questions there feel free to toss them out, but for now I will not address that portion.

To get clean DXF's you are going to want to start by determining exactly what it is you want to see over on the magnet side.  Lets assume for now it will be Walls, Pipes, and floors.  Now most likely you only care about an outline of all of these.  Look into creating a view template that is a floor plan with the visibility graphics set to only show those 3 things (And Generic models so the points show up).  You would then use this view template to create floor plan views per level.  For each view you would export a dxf and the points file. And you can continue to refine your view template and reuse it in new projects (Google transfer project standards -> view templates).  Then, not including point creation, you will have a much simpler process per floor or area.

Last, I do realize that even with the above, you sometimes want to simplify the dxf even more.  Simply put, the abilities to do such are in AutoCAD and not in Revit.  So create the DXF from Revit, open it up over in AutoCAD, and take it through the APL DWG/DXF creation wizard, skipping any steps that dont make sense (Like Scaling).

Feel free to post followup questions.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I really need some help. I am trying to add control points and wall layout for APL. But I am not able to see the control points. See below.