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Thin Wall Model L/D Ratio

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will_roe
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Thin Wall Model L/D Ratio

will_roe
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Hi,

 

I just noticed that the thin wall model L/D ratio is substantially different between Inventor Stress Analysis and Nastran. I don't understand what's going on behind the scenes enough to know why this is the case.

 

Simple question- Are these ratios the correct assumption to make when working in each analysis?

 

Nastran-

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor-nastran/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/...

 

Stress analysis-

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2020/ENU/Inve...

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Thin Wall Model L/D Ratio

Hi,

 

I just noticed that the thin wall model L/D ratio is substantially different between Inventor Stress Analysis and Nastran. I don't understand what's going on behind the scenes enough to know why this is the case.

 

Simple question- Are these ratios the correct assumption to make when working in each analysis?

 

Nastran-

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor-nastran/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/...

 

Stress analysis-

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2020/ENU/Inve...

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John_Holtz
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Hi @will_roe 

 

The 100/1 L/D ratio (Inventor Stress Analysis, ISA) seems very large to me. Personally, I would not use a solid mesh when the L/D ratio is close to that large. But ISA does have higher order elements (high order than parabolic in Inventor Nastran), so perhaps it can compensate for such thin parts.

 

I suspect the 20/1 L/D ratio (Inventor Nastran) is based on the engineering approximation of thin-wall cylinders versus thick-wall cylinders.

 

 



John Holtz, P.E.

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Autodesk, Inc.


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Hi @will_roe 

 

The 100/1 L/D ratio (Inventor Stress Analysis, ISA) seems very large to me. Personally, I would not use a solid mesh when the L/D ratio is close to that large. But ISA does have higher order elements (high order than parabolic in Inventor Nastran), so perhaps it can compensate for such thin parts.

 

I suspect the 20/1 L/D ratio (Inventor Nastran) is based on the engineering approximation of thin-wall cylinders versus thick-wall cylinders.

 

 



John Holtz, P.E.

Global Product Support
Autodesk, Inc.


If not provided already, be sure to indicate the version of Inventor Nastran you are using!

"The knowledge you seek is at knowledge.autodesk.com" - Confucius 😉

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