View Label Formatting

[ToddPig]

I would like to change the format of the view label.

I created a new style (copied from ANSI), but when I click on the pencil icon (see attached), I am only able to edit the color, size, bold, etc...  I can't change the font, or to center justification, etc...

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Todd

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[ToddPig]

I would like to change the format of the view label.

I created a new style (copied from ANSI), but when I click on the pencil icon (see attached), I am only able to edit the color, size, bold, etc...  I can't change the font, or to center justification, etc...

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Todd

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[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi ToddPig.

 In the real world it goes something like this

(note these colors do no correlate to the previous diagram, so don't let that confuse things)

Standard:

Acme Roadrunner Catching Machines, LLC - Company Standard

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    Shop Drawing Dims (Text Style2, 3 decimal places, filled arrows)

    Sales Drawing Dims (Text Style1, 2 decimal places, tick marks)

Text Styles

    Text Style1 (Comic Sans, 0.150", Bold)

    Text Style2 (Arial, 0.125")

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (Shop Drawing Dims )

   Text (Text Style2)

   ....

So the ARCM, LLC has a company standard, in that standard there are 2 dimension styles, one is used on sales drawings, the other on shop drawings. Each dimension style uses a different text style as a sub-style.

The object default for dim styles is the one called Shop Drawings, because that is what is created most often. The object default for Text is Text Style 2, so when we place a text note, it defaults to Arial 0.125".

If we need to create a sales drawing, we click the General Dimension tool, and then switch to the annotation tab and change the dimension style to use the Sale Drawings dim style, and likewise for text, if the notes are to be comic sans also.

Or consider a different company / and different set up: 

Now imagine if we're a job shop, and we produce drawings for General Motors, Ford, Toyota, etc. In that case we might have multiple standards set up, and that allows us to switch a drawing over from the GM standard to the Toyota standard, etc.

That might look something like this:

Standard:

GM

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    GM Dims (Text Style2)

Text Styles

    Text Style1 (Tahoma, 0.150")

    Text Style2 (Arial, 0.125")

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (GM Dims )

   Text (Text Style1)

   ....

Standard:

Ford

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    Standard Drawings  (Text Style2)

    Bid Drawings (Text Style1)

Text Styles

    Text Style1 (Tahoma, 0.150")

    Text Style2 (Arial, 0.125")

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (Standard Drawings )

   Text (Text Style2)

   ....

Standard:

Toyota

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    Dims1  (Text StyleB)

Text Styles

    Text StyleA (Tahoma, 0.70)

    Text StyleB (Arial, 0.50)

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (Dims1)

   Text (Text StyleB)

   ....

And we could manage these 3 standards in 3 separate templates, or in one template that reads from a styles library, or some combination of templates and a styles library.

But we typically get the template(s) worked out first (local styles) and then tackle the styles library.

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi ToddPig.

 In the real world it goes something like this

(note these colors do no correlate to the previous diagram, so don't let that confuse things)

Standard:

Acme Roadrunner Catching Machines, LLC - Company Standard

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    Shop Drawing Dims (Text Style2, 3 decimal places, filled arrows)

    Sales Drawing Dims (Text Style1, 2 decimal places, tick marks)

Text Styles

    Text Style1 (Comic Sans, 0.150", Bold)

    Text Style2 (Arial, 0.125")

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (Shop Drawing Dims )

   Text (Text Style2)

   ....

So the ARCM, LLC has a company standard, in that standard there are 2 dimension styles, one is used on sales drawings, the other on shop drawings. Each dimension style uses a different text style as a sub-style.

The object default for dim styles is the one called Shop Drawings, because that is what is created most often. The object default for Text is Text Style 2, so when we place a text note, it defaults to Arial 0.125".

If we need to create a sales drawing, we click the General Dimension tool, and then switch to the annotation tab and change the dimension style to use the Sale Drawings dim style, and likewise for text, if the notes are to be comic sans also.

Or consider a different company / and different set up: 

Now imagine if we're a job shop, and we produce drawings for General Motors, Ford, Toyota, etc. In that case we might have multiple standards set up, and that allows us to switch a drawing over from the GM standard to the Toyota standard, etc.

That might look something like this:

Standard:

GM

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    GM Dims (Text Style2)

Text Styles

    Text Style1 (Tahoma, 0.150")

    Text Style2 (Arial, 0.125")

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (GM Dims )

   Text (Text Style1)

   ....

Standard:

Ford

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    Standard Drawings  (Text Style2)

    Bid Drawings (Text Style1)

Text Styles

    Text Style1 (Tahoma, 0.150")

    Text Style2 (Arial, 0.125")

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (Standard Drawings )

   Text (Text Style2)

   ....

Standard:

Toyota

Styles:

Dimension Styles 

    Dims1  (Text StyleB)

Text Styles

    Text StyleA (Tahoma, 0.70)

    Text StyleB (Arial, 0.50)

Object Defaults

   General Dimension (Dims1)

   Text (Text StyleB)

   ....

And we could manage these 3 standards in 3 separate templates, or in one template that reads from a styles library, or some combination of templates and a styles library.

But we typically get the template(s) worked out first (local styles) and then tackle the styles library.

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[jacob.ellerbrock]

I have a further question off this. We all have multiple views on one drawing at times. Can I change the text size on all of the labels with one process? Currently the only way I can find is opening each label's "Format Text" box and changing it there. 

If I select multiple Labels and then change the style standard, nothing happens. I know this works for different "Text" and I think dimensions too but it doesn't work for the Labels.
I also tried switching it in the style editor but that doesn't seem to affect the labels already made. It appears to only change how future Labels are made.

[jacob.ellerbrock]

I have a further question off this. We all have multiple views on one drawing at times. Can I change the text size on all of the labels with one process? Currently the only way I can find is opening each label's "Format Text" box and changing it there. 

If I select multiple Labels and then change the style standard, nothing happens. I know this works for different "Text" and I think dimensions too but it doesn't work for the Labels.
I also tried switching it in the style editor but that doesn't seem to affect the labels already made. It appears to only change how future Labels are made.

[CGBenner]

@jacob.ellerbrock 

What version of Inventor are you using?  In 2021.1, I can right click on the label and edit the text style.  Any changes I make there immediately show up in the existing view labels, as well as any new ones I use.  Is this the workflow you have tried?

[CGBenner]

@jacob.ellerbrock 

What version of Inventor are you using?  In 2021.1, I can right click on the label and edit the text style.  Any changes I make there immediately show up in the existing view labels, as well as any new ones I use.  Is this the workflow you have tried?

[jacob.ellerbrock]

I am running some version of Inventor 2020. I can't upload the whole file for confidential reasons but here is a small screenshot of what I am looking at. Ideally I could change all of these part's Labels at once. I'm also not sure why my style is locked in the Format Text I have open.

[jacob.ellerbrock]

I am running some version of Inventor 2020. I can't upload the whole file for confidential reasons but here is a small screenshot of what I am looking at. Ideally I could change all of these part's Labels at once. I'm also not sure why my style is locked in the Format Text I have open.

[CGBenner]

@jacob.ellerbrock 

From your screen shot it appears that what you are doing is editing the individual View Label.  Instead, hover over a view label, Right Mouse Click and select Edit Text Style.  The style editor will open and whatever changes you make there should apply to all View Labels, unless the style associated with them had previously been changed to a different style.

[CGBenner]

@jacob.ellerbrock 

From your screen shot it appears that what you are doing is editing the individual View Label.  Instead, hover over a view label, Right Mouse Click and select Edit Text Style.  The style editor will open and whatever changes you make there should apply to all View Labels, unless the style associated with them had previously been changed to a different style.

[jacob.ellerbrock]

So when I do that I get this pop-up and if I change the text height to say 3.6", nothing is changing. I can then make a new view and it will pick up the new 3.6" text, but I can't get it to change the old ones.

 

I changed the text to 3.6" and then clicked "Save and Close"

These next two pictures are showing that nothing that was on the drawing changed but the new ITEM 17 has the new sized text.

 

  

[jacob.ellerbrock]

So when I do that I get this pop-up and if I change the text height to say 3.6", nothing is changing. I can then make a new view and it will pick up the new 3.6" text, but I can't get it to change the old ones.

 

I changed the text to 3.6" and then clicked "Save and Close"

These next two pictures are showing that nothing that was on the drawing changed but the new ITEM 17 has the new sized text.

 

  

[jacob.ellerbrock]

I think I figured it out. I somehow turned off the connection between the view settings and the drawing sheet itself. I went to another sheet and they were changing. I think it had to do with I was editing what was in the view box. Unfortunately, now that I have more of an understanding for how it works, I'm starting to think it can't be done. Can I keep the view setting linked but still change it in between pages? If sheet 1 is a D size and sheet 2 is A. I want different sized text for each page but want it to stay linked to the Text Style. I'm only seeing ways to change it for all sheets.

[jacob.ellerbrock]

I think I figured it out. I somehow turned off the connection between the view settings and the drawing sheet itself. I went to another sheet and they were changing. I think it had to do with I was editing what was in the view box. Unfortunately, now that I have more of an understanding for how it works, I'm starting to think it can't be done. Can I keep the view setting linked but still change it in between pages? If sheet 1 is a D size and sheet 2 is A. I want different sized text for each page but want it to stay linked to the Text Style. I'm only seeing ways to change it for all sheets.

[CGBenner]

@jacob.ellerbrock 

The settings are per document, not per page, so that won't help you right out of the box.  But you can create a new style for each different page size, and then manually assign them to each new page as it is created.

If you are looking for a way to automate this based on the sheet size, there may be an iLogic solution.  I suggest trying it the manual way first, to understand how it works, and then post in the Inventor Customization forum and ask for some assistance in creating an iLogic rule to automate this... if it can be done.  I'm not experienced with iLogic.

[CGBenner]

@jacob.ellerbrock 

The settings are per document, not per page, so that won't help you right out of the box.  But you can create a new style for each different page size, and then manually assign them to each new page as it is created.

If you are looking for a way to automate this based on the sheet size, there may be an iLogic solution.  I suggest trying it the manual way first, to understand how it works, and then post in the Inventor Customization forum and ask for some assistance in creating an iLogic rule to automate this... if it can be done.  I'm not experienced with iLogic.

[jacob.ellerbrock]

Will do. Appreciate all the help

[jacob.ellerbrock]

Will do. Appreciate all the help