User wants to open just the assembly file without all the part files coming along.

[jlogan208]

We just upgraded to 2024 from 2019 and he's saying that it used to be he'd open part file and not see all the assembly files in the browser. Now, the browser shows all associated files of the part.

I get that same result and am not familiar with 2019. I can't seem to find a way to not have all part files pulled along upon open of the assembly drawing. 

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! Are you talking about Express mode? Inventor iam file is a wrapper and all the ipt files have to be presented and resolved. Otherwise, there will be unresolved components.

The only workflow can lead to a similar behavior is to use AnyCAD Reference Import. Basically, you export the Inventor iam file as STEP and then import the STEP back using Reference option. Then you will have one iam file, linked to the STEP file. All the subcomponents are stored in the STEP file.

A similar workflow can be done using Future CAD workflow (a 202x iam file linked to a 202x-1 iam file).

Many thanks!

[jlogan208]

Thanks for the quick response. I understand what you're saying, and it makes sense. Did 2019 have the browser? Is it possible that the browser didn't exist and now it does so he's seeing all the ipt files in the browser?

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! The Inventor model browser has been there since R1. I am sorry I don't understand the issue. If possible, please share a screenshot of what you are seeing. I may have misunderstood the issue.

Many thanks!

[jlogan208]

I was misunderstanding the issue. Here's the user's response, just now...TLDR, sometimes inventor checks out the .ipt files and in one case he added a note to the .iam file that promulgated through the .ipt files

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"The way it’s SUPPOSED to work is, when you check out an assembly file for editing, the only thing that should be checked out of vault is the assembly file itself- the “~.iam” file.

NONE of the component parts, or rather, the “~.ipt” files that are used in the assembly, should ever be checked out along with it.  Only the .iam  assembly file. 

Note that all of the component parts will always be shown in the browser if they are part of the assembly, but this does not mean they are checked out separately with the assembly, only that they are used to build that assembly.

Sometimes, when you open an assembly, Vault will work the way it’s supposed to, and only check out the assembly file as intended.

And sometimes, Vault will decide to check out all of the component part files (.ipt files) along with the assembly.

But you never know which of these two things Vault will do.  It seems to be totally random! 

For example, I was building a model of an old structure type with obsolete “Flowerpot” insulators and a bayonet channel-iron brace, which we haven’t used in our system in decades; and I created this only as a reference model, not for new construction.  Unbeknownst to me, Vault had decided to check out each and every part that I had used to create that model.  And when I checked it in and added the comment “Obsolete, Original construction drawing for reference ONLY” Vault went and added that comment to each and every part that was used in that model!  (Arrrgh!)  And this includes many standard parts that we use in virtually ALL of our assemblies, including the standard 8’ copper ground rod."

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! I think I know what the user is talking about. This is about Vault asking the user to check out more than needed.

Please make sure all the critical Windows updates are installed and the graphics driver is updated. Also install the latest Inventor and Vault (client and server) updates.

Lastly, ask the user to share the screenshot of Inventor Save App Options (Tools -> App Options -> Save). It is possible that some conditions are set to Yes. The user should only keep the conditions he/she wants to save to Yes.

Many thanks!

[jlogan208]

All is up to date. Here are those settings.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! This could be a drastic change in my opinion. But just for the sake of testing, try setting all conditions to "No" for Prompt to Save. In theory, the parts should not be asked to check out unless they are indeed changed (not saving it can lose the change).

Another possibility is that somehow the files are corrupted. I will need to see the files. Please share them on a cloud drive of your choice and grant me (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com) the access.

Many thanks!

[James_Willo]

Some other posibilities:

Are they checking out directly from Vault? Please check the option to 'check out children' isn't also switched on?

It could also be that files in the assembly are dirty, for instance vault is updating some properties on check in due to a vault administrator setting, or maybe somebody has updated a file with model states in etc.

[dave.cutting]

When you go to check out the assembly file, go to settings in the Vault dialogue box.

The tick boxes in there dictate whether it checks out a single file or all of them.

[dan_inv09]

They just updated? Could it be that it's just needing to update all the files to the new Inventor version and after they all get updated and saved it will behave as expected?

[jlogan208]

I have to put this on hold for a bit but will find time for testing later in the week. 

Please hold...