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Unique BOM line and Item Number for multiple instances of the same component

waynehelley
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Unique BOM line and Item Number for multiple instances of the same component

waynehelley
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Hi all,

 

I'm working with the 'Parts Only' Bill of Materials.  The problem I have is that it is critical for multiple instances of the same component to have different item numbers, since the numbering needs to match up the hydraulic circuit drawings

 

Here a couple examples.  To achieve what we have here, we have had to use balloon overrides and will have to manually add lines in to the Parts List.

 

 

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Is there a cleaner way to achieve this?  I don't want to go down the road of using table driven or derived parts.

 

Many thanks,

 

Wayne

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swalton
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I am not aware of anything out-of-the box in Inventor.

 

However this thread seems to be what you need: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/inventor-understanding/m-p/6556138/highlight/true#M612...

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johnsonshiue
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Hi! This is an interesting request. I have heard it before. Internally, we call it "occurrence based BOM attributes." The schematic you are looking for is not yet supported in Inventor BOM and PartsList. Youl will need to use sketch symbol to do that. Inventor BOM and Partslist is meant to create a purchase list or inventory list so that users can order parts based on the list.

Many thanks!



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pasi.annila
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Hi Wayne,

I would also need this.

Please ad this as a wish on ideas section.

 

BR,

Pasi

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Marcin.Szklarek
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I am just going through electronic assembly with multiple instances of the same parts. I originaly thought that instances will allow that, why else would you have them if they are shown as separate in BOM. It is at the moment like attaching another bit to part number. Instances are more likely to be used to show exact location combined with assembly  drawing ( no ballons).

Kind of dissapointed but I hope this could be implemented. Merging a part number and showing all instances in one box wit coma or back slash separator( i.e. r3,r10,r30).

The way it is now BOM will be unnecessarily long.

pasi.annila
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Little more specks from my point of view.

About the numbering and separator. The dot "." is already used in multilevel BOM so there should be some other separator. I think it should be user select-able.

Also it should have option to select which part(s) in BOM behave like this (not all). You might have parts like screws in the same assembly with parts like photocells - only photocells should have asked behavior (it actually depends on item not BOM, weather to use it or not).

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Marcin.Szklarek
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That is done already,I think. If you do not set your attribute to instance it will not show up. You could also choose different instances attributes ( bolt instance, capacitor instance) and they will not overlap.

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johan.degreef
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I know this is a very old topic, but doesn't "Instance iproperties" help in this case?

 

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johnsonshiue
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Hi Folks,

 

Yes, Johan is right. This should be taken care by Instance Properties in 2022. Instances of the same component at the same level can have different values of the same property. If it is not working, please share the example that exhibits the behavior.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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Marcin.Szklarek
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What you have shown is exactly the issue. On the BOM if you merge it shows VARIABLE. It does not show instances.

It is much better if you have a look up to all instances. Just like BOMS of PCBs. If inventor is supposed to work with EAGLE PCB software  then that kind of instances in BOM has to be taken in to account. It is a step forward but the result which is BOM is not much helpful.

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johnsonshiue
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Hi Marcin,

 

On 2022, the row merge option includes a secondary option allowing different instance to be listed as a separate row. It should work unless I misunderstood the request. Please share an example that you are working on. We can easily tell if Instance Properties helps fulfill your request.

Many thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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Marcin.Szklarek
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Hi!

 

Yes, that is correct and that is what actually is a problem. Imagine you have an assembly with 30 types of resistor and 5-6 instnces of each. If you merge it says Varies if you choose not to merge it it will show each instance separate. That is manny lines in BOM.  My expected behaviour would be to show all instances in window  next to one part. 

That way you have quantity and instances grouped in one point and no need for multiple BOMs ( purchase and placement instances). 

It is a great feature, but it would be nice to take it further.

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johnsonshiue
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Hi Marcin,

 

Many thanks for clarifying! I get the point now. It is about the ability to show the variance, instead of using "Various."

Assembly BOM table has been positioned as the single source of truth. There are very few customization workflows allowed.

On the other hand, PartsList is more customizable. Maybe you could use PartsList to show the desirable result by enabling Grouping.

Thanks again!

 



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We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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