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Sheet metal square to round

Anonymous
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If I create a square to round,  that would have 4 different sides.  I can place rips exactly were I want the seams. Is there any way to make each side a solid body? I've been able to do this using the split tool. But it becomes very messy and difficult. 

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SharkDesign
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Use 'make components' on the 'Layout' tab. I think you want all 4 sides as separate files?

 

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IgorMir
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Is something like that will do? IV2020 files.

Cheers,

Igor.

Web: www.meqc.com.au

JDMather
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@Anonymous wrote:

I've been able to do this using the split tool. But it becomes very messy and difficult. 


This one should be an easy solution.

Can you Attach the *.ipt file of your “messy” attempt?


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Anonymous
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here is the .ipt , I did this using the split tool. I really want to be able to use the rip command, to create separate bodies.

 

thanks for your time.

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SharkDesign
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Like this?

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As I said above, use make components to split it into separate parts. 

I can't open the part to check if it can be ripped, but if you can do it, just use 'make components' 

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Anonymous
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the rip command, doesn't create separate bodies,  that would then allow them to be made into separate components.

I can do this using the split command, I was just wondering if there was a way to do it using the rip command.

 

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Frederick_Law
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Don't think rip work that way.  Rip cut one open a closed profile so it can be flatten.  Not to make 2 different pieces.

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JDMather
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You are working too hard.

There is a much easier technique for this design (no Work Points and no Work Planes needed).

I will post an example when I get a chance.

I will start by fully defining Sketch1 (you are missing a constraint).

I will not be using any zero (0) length dimensions.

I will not be repeating any dimensions.

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JDMather
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Bump!

I've got too many pots on the stove and don't want to forget this one...

 

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While I am working on this - you should install the Updates for 2021.


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JDMather
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@Anonymous 

 

Start a new part file.

Create the sketch as shown below.

Attach your new file here for next set of steps.

Hopper Sketch1.png

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Anonymous
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here you go, thanks for the help.

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JDMather
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Edit the sketch.

Click on the Show All Degrees of Freedom at the bottom of the screen.

What do you observe?

 

We fully constrain all geometry and do not duplicate dimensions (use Equal (=) Constraint instead) that way if we need to change - it is controlled from one dimension.

 

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Anonymous
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sorry, please take another look.

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JDMather
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I made a big mistake - but I think it would not be too much work to fix the mistake.

See Attached for some ideas.  (Examine the Master file.)

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Anonymous
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    thank you for taking the time to look at this. althougth my method of modeling this part.

was more work, than your model. being able to split the transistion into four pieces and join it with the rectangle sides and flanges is necessary for fabrication. also the chord lines created when making a lofted flange  are used to create etch lines for to aid in bending. 

 

 

I really just need the rip command to act like the split command so I can create four

seperate bodies to this type of transititon.

 

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JDMather
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All of this can be done.


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@Anonymous wrote:

    thank you for taking the time to look at this. althougth my method of modeling this part.

was more work, than your model. being able to split the transistion into four pieces and join it with the rectangle sides and flanges is necessary for fabrication. also the chord lines created when making a lofted flange  are used to create etch lines for to aid in bending. 

 

 

I really just need the rip command to act like the split command so I can create four

seperate bodies to this type of transititon.

 


Splitting it up is actually the easy part, what JD is showing you here however is valuable information for all modelling.

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JDMather
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@Anonymous 

This was my first attempt - an exercise in becoming familiar with the geometry.

If you Attach your second attempt - I will then make a second attempt.

The Rips can be placed in any desired location.

The Bends can be placed in any desired location.

I am confident that the solution can be achieved.


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Anonymous
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this would be a more common part, I need to be able to make 4 seperate flat patterns for this part. where I have the rips. 

 

my current process is to make one rip in the middle, bring one large flat pattern into autocad and seperate the part as needed. 

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