Retrieve or delete hidden break from drawing view

[steve_lindley]

Hi,

I created a drawing a couple of years ago of a part with a large radius where the centre mark was way off the page. In order to dimension to the centre mark, I put a break on the view (across the blank space between the part and the cenrte mark) to bring it closer and applied my dimensions accordingly. Now the part has been revised and the view needs adjusting, but I can't select the jagged break lines (because they don't cross any part lines I think). Hovering the cursor somewhere near where they must be doesn't show anything. The filters don't seem to offer any selection for a break line. Other than re-doing the drawing, or putting another break in to adjust the view, does anyone have any ideas how I might be able to get hold of those pesky break lines to move them please?

Running Inventor Pro 2019.1

Many thanks

Steve

[johnsonshiue]

Hi Steve,

The behavior does not sound right to me. Could you share an example here? Or, you can send it directly to me (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com). I would like to understand the behavior better.

Many thanks!

[Anonymous]

In my experience, Breaks are the least reliable drawing view feature in Inventor.  Seems so simple, but if I have a break on a view, and the view is giving me trouble, I start by looking at the break.  View sketches don't respond well to them, dimensions and notes are subject to quirkiness around them... breaks are trouble.  Sadly, I don't have a suggestion... I think you may have to make a new break, or remake the view. 😞

[steve_lindley]

Thanks both for comments. Personally I've never had issues with breaks in views before but it's rare for us to place sketches on views and other than moving dimension values off centre when breaks are adjusted, no issues there either.

I'd be genuinely interested to hear how others dimension to centre marks when they are significantly distanced from the part. We don't have many instances like this thankfully, but it does crop up now and again. In the past I have tried placing a sketched centre mark in the view and trying to link the dimensions to those in the part, but that took a lot of effort. The break in this instance only worked because the centre mark was only a long way off in one direction. If it had been a long way off both in x and y for example it wouldn't have worked.

@johnsonshiueI've sent files by email for you to look at. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

[SBix26]

This has been a long-standing omission in Inventor's drawing capability.   For a long time I had an active Idea in the ideas forum regarding dimensioning to displaced centers, but it died (got archived) for lack of votes.  The problem, of course, is that many users never need this, and it's rare for everybody else.  But when you need it, there is really no good workaround-- you end up with manually sketched or edited dimensions, which should absolutely never be done.

I don't recall when the change took place (8-10 years ago?), but long ago you could place a break outside the part geometry, and now you can't.  My solution has been to place a very tiny feature at the radius center so I could make the break where I want it, and that might be all you need to get this one reactivated.

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Sam B
Inventor Pro 2019.1.1 | Windows 7 SP1
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[steve_lindley · Accepted solution]

Thanks all for comments. Johnson was able to figure out what I'd done and it was fairly simple in the end. I'd turned off the visibility of the layer Break Line (ISO), which probably seemed like a good idea at the time, but in the intervening years, clearly I'd completely forgotten.