Remove the prefix "R" from radius dimensions

[shuaib_cad]

How do i remove the prefix "R" from radius dimensions in drawing?

[IgorMir]

And why would you want to do that? Which standard does specify such a stile?

Regards,

Igor.

[shuaib_cad]

Its our company standards. We use the "R" symbol at the end of the dimension.

Currently we use text leader to type the radius manually with the suffix "R".

Please give me a solution for this as it would be very helpful and time saving.

[IgorMir]

The solution is simple. Review your company standard and make it in line with world accepted practice. That's the way of action I would take if I were you anyway.

Best Regards,

Igor.

[Anonymous]

You can make the original parameter invisable and add the parameter from the parameter list.

That way it still updates when you change the parameter in the model.

Quite labour intensive workaround but the only way i can find.

Cheers

[mcgyvr]

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@IgorMir wrote:

The solution is simple. Review your company standard and make it in line with world accepted practice. That's the way of action I would take if I were you anyway.

Best Regards,

Igor.

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This is the best solution.. ^^

Change your company standards..

Placing the "R" after the numerical value is not a standard as far as I know and you should change your "company standard" to be inline with all other dimension standards.

As far as I can tell you can't change the placement of the "R".. 

[shuaib_cad]

@Anonymous

Your solution is good but I have to do this for all the radius dimensions one by one manually which is a big headache.

Anyways I have no other go as there is no solution for this issue as of now. I think Inventor has to update this option for customized users as most of the companies follow there own standards in dimensioning.

Thanks a lot for your help!

[shuaib_cad]

@IgorMir

We are not here to discuss over the process but rather to find a solution for the issue.

So its no point in you saying to change our company's standards which won't happen.

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[IgorMir]

I can't please everyone!

Good luck with your quest of changing the world.

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@shuaib_cad wrote:

@IgorMir

We are not here to discuss over the process but rather to find a solution for the issue.

So its no point in you saying to change our company's standards which won't happen.

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[shuaib_cad]

If you can not please anyone then why are you here wasting our time?

[JDMather]

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@shuaib_cad wrote:

...as most of the companies follow there their own standards in dimensioning.

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Can you cite a verifiable reference for the source of this information?

This might have been true in 1984, but 16 years into the 21st century I don't think it is true.

(I make that statement without citing reference.)

There has been significant push to standardization.  ISO and ANSI/ASME are two examples.

I recommend that you research the benefits to national or international standards as they might apply to your company.

After documenting the importance of national or international standards - then you can make a push for your company to adopt these standards from a strong foundation of evidence.

You already have evidence that it is time intensive to hide the R in default position and manually edit for your intended position.

What country are you in?

What are your primary products?

Who are you primary customers?

[shuaib_cad]

I am from India and I work for a US based company which manufactures electrical connectors.

We in India provide engineering/design support to our customers. We create sales, assembly and production drawings to them in which we follow some customized standards for all the three drawings. These customized standards have been followed from many many years and now its impossible for them to change it due to a small issue in Inventor.

We dont follow ANSI, ASME or ISO standards for our drawings as it is not required by our customers. Our work is to create the drawings as per their inputs and formats.

Anyways thanks for your support it would be very helpful if you could provide us some add-in or ilogic rules for this if possible.

[mcgyvr]

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@shuaib_cad wrote:

now its impossible for them to change it due to a small issue in Inventor.

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Its never impossible to change company procedures/standards..

You simply do not want to.. 

One should adapt their procedures to work with the systems there are using..

If Inventor is your system then you should update your standards to match. 

As far as I know its "impossible" in Inventor to change the location of the "R" as the dimensions are based upon standards.. All dimension standards include the R before the numerical value just as they show the diameter symbol before. 

The location of the R seems to be hard coded into Inventor and cannot be changed without manually changing it as you have been doing..

So it seems like you have 2 choices..

#1-Continue to manually add the dimensions which can lead to numerous problems down the road

#2-Update your company standards to be inline with the software you are using.

[JDMather]

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@shuaib_cad wrote:

....We in India provide engineering/design support to our customers.... we follow some customized standards ...

We dont follow ANSI, ASME or ISO standards for our drawings as it is not required by our customers. Our work is to create the drawings as per their inputs and formats.....

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Ah, I see where this could be a problem in convincing your customer to adapt to 21st century standards.  (actually - recognized national/international standards go well back into the last century)

Probably the best you can do is recognize that this is an extra-time and extra-cost requirement because they haven't adopted national/international standards.

I have no financial interest (do you understand that we do not work for Autodesk - simply users like you) in finding a work-around to well established standards. 

Can you ask the customer to join this discussion?  It might be easier for us to convince them to adopt national/international standards than it would be for you to convince them.

[IgorMir]

Oh, you have to be careful here Mcgyvr. I suggested that but was flamed for it. The guy is clearly on a war pass with the rest of the world! LOL!

Best Regards,

Igor.

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@mcgyvr wrote:

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@shuaib_cad wrote:

now its impossible for them to change it due to a small issue in Inventor.

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Its never impossible to change company procedures/standards..

You simply do not want to.. 

One should adapt their procedures to work with the systems there are using..

If Inventor is your system then you should update your standards to match. 

As far as I know its "impossible" in Inventor to change the location of the "R" as the dimensions are based upon standards.. All dimension standards include the R before the numerical value just as they show the diameter symbol before. 

The location of the R seems to be hard coded into Inventor and cannot be changed without manually changing it as you have been doing..

So it seems like you have 2 choices..

#1-Continue to manually add the dimensions which can lead to numerous problems down the road

#2-Update your company standards to be inline with the software you are using.

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[mcgyvr]

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@IgorMir wrote:

Oh, you have to be careful here Mcgyvr. I suggested that but was flamed for it. The guy is clearly on a war pass with the rest of the world! LOL!

Best Regards,

Igor.

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I'm not afraid of a little flame .. I'm an Eagle scout and still carry my "Firem'n Chit"  (and Totin' Chip) cards in my wallet..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firem%27n_Chit

I'm prepared...

I HATE people/companies that claim their internal procedures are set in stone and nothing can change them now.. Thats just BS..

While I understand that with some larger companies that may not be a simple task but its always better than having to manually edit hole notes or create them as leaders as the OP is doing thus loosing the abilty for the dimensions to update properly on geometry changes.. One person forgetting to update that note could cost thousands of dollars of rework

[IgorMir]

I looked it up. You are prepared indeed! LOL! Well done!

As for the business at hand - I totally agree with what you have said.

Cheers,

Igor.

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@mcgyvr wrote:

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@IgorMir wrote:

Oh, you have to be careful here Mcgyvr. I suggested that but was flamed for it. The guy is clearly on a war pass with the rest of the world! LOL!

Best Regards,

Igor.

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I'm not afraid of a little flame .. I'm an Eagle scout and still carry my "Firem'n Chit"  (and Totin' Chip) cards in my wallet..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firem%27n_Chit

I'm prepared...

I HATE people/companies that claim their internal procedures are set in stone and nothing can change them now.. Thats just BS..

While I understand that with some larger companies that may not be a simple task but its always better than having to manually edit hole notes or create them as leaders as the OP is doing thus loosing the abilty for the dimensions to update properly on geometry changes.. One person forgetting to update that note could cost thousands of dollars of rework

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[mark.laiho]

Using a space as a prefix does work but if you want to avoid the extra space you can do the following.

set variable "DIMPOST" to: <>

This creates a dimension style override with no prefixes or spaces.  To update all the existing radius dimensions using that style go to format > dimension styles.  Right click on the correct style override and select "save to current style".  That is the only way I have found to get the dimpost change to properly save to the dimension style to get rid of prefixes with no spaces.

[DougDM]

How

[DougDM]

How IF you do work internationally, do it without ISO standards or other?