Placing a part in a new assembly

[RStancescu]

Hello all,

Is there a way that I can insert a part oriented in my way? I have the part open and try to place it as it's oriented in my part environment. For now, I don't want to care about x  y  and z, view cube, etc.

If there is NO to my above question, how should orient my ipt (changing the view cube) to get to a new assy the way I want?

I know, at the end, that I may need to create assy templates to achieve it...

Thank you for your ideas.

radu

[JDMather]

Can you attach your files here?

Using assembly constraints to the Origin planes - you should be able to get virtually any orientation you need.

[RStancescu]

Thank you for replying. This is a test file, I want to bring it to assy just like that. I want this to be easy for users to constrain it so when they bring the ipt it comes in the right orientation. 

[JDMather]

Sketch1 does not have any dimensions?

Sketch1 is not making use of obvious symmetry about the origin.

I do not understand your design intent.

[RStancescu]

ok, I added dimensions and placed the rectangle in the origin. How is this helpful? This is just a test, I'm trying to understand the functionality.

Thank you and see attached.

[JDMather]

I've been doing this for nearly 30 years, but I have to admit - I have no clue of what your design intent really is.

Can you post a link to an image of something similar to what you want to achieve - something in the real world?

[RStancescu]

Please see attached, I extrude a part from a profile. Then insert the ipt into an assy file (frame for a window).

I want the ipt to be placed in a orientation that will be straight constrained by the user. I dont want the user to rotate the part and then select faces to constrain. 

[JDMather]

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@RStancescu wrote:

... I don't want the user to rotate the part and then select faces to constrain. 

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How will the person out on the shop floor assemble the window?

How will the person transporting in truck load the truck?

How will the person installing in the building assemble?

If you want in a particular orientation - then model in that orientation, but I don't think that really represents the real world and you are going to have to model a lot of extra components.

Are you familiar with multi-body solids modeling?

Are you familiar with skeletal modeling?
Are you familiar with the Frame Generator?

[CCarreiras]

You can place the part adding some constrains...

[RStancescu]

I need the part to be placed in the assy in the desired orientation so user doesnt rotate the individual part He will add the constraints but I try to make it easier for him so he doesnt think about top/bottom/left/right.

[JDMather]

Can you hire trained users or can you train them how to use Inventor (or any MCAD program)?

The people out on the shop floor don't have any difficulty with this stuff?

[JDMather]

It just occurred to me that maybe you should look into iLogic.

I have seen some pretty impressive stuff automated with iLogic.

[Curtis_Waguespack · Accepted solution]

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@RStancescu wrote:

I need the part to be placed in the assy in the desired orientation so user doesnt rotate the individual part He will add the constraints but I try to make it easier for him so he doesnt think about top/bottom/left/right.

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Hi RStancescu,

When I've worked with extruded profiles in the past, we color coded the end faces and back face, so that the orientation was obvious. This was done in the part files.

Something like:

• Top end : Red
• Bottom end : Yellow
• Back face : Blue

You would do this in the assembly using a colored Design View, and then have another Design View that applies the color appearance as material at the assembly.

We also added circular surface extrusions to the parts so that they could be assembled using Insert Constraints and "snapped" together.

Also, have you considered authoring your profiles as Frame Generator profiles, and using the Frame Generator tools to create the assemblies?

Custom profiles:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor-products/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcartic...

Custom profiles video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgnHHQ0aRrY

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[RStancescu]

ilogic could be doable, I'm testing now imates.

thank you.

[RStancescu]

Thank you Curtis, coloring is not  a bad idea, I'm also testing imates like I posted above.