Laptop or Mobile Workstation for Inventor

Laptop or Mobile Workstation for Inventor

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Laptop or Mobile Workstation for Inventor

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Does anyone have recommendations for a decent laptop that will be used to run AutoCAD 2020 & Autodesk Inventor Professional 2020?  Most Inventor assemblies would be 500 parts or less.

 

I would like to be reasonable when it comes to cost, but we're willing to invest so that the machine lasts 3 years or more.  Also, I'm not stuck on a mobile workstation - a business laptop, gaming laptop, etc. will be fine as long as it performs OK.

 

I tried to do research, including:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/buying-the-right-workstation-for-inventor-au-2018-clas...

 

I just have a little bit of trouble translating the excellent information that has been shared from a desktop platform to a laptop platform (hardware is not my strong point).  Thanks in advance for any advice!

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leowarren34
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I'll tag @Neil_Cross in as he is the one of the best on the forum for hardware,

General Criteria:

 

CPU: Clock speed preferably greater than 3.5GHz or 4GHz, Turbo higher than 4.5GHz, 6 cores is usually plenty, in general more cores means slower speed. 

RAM: As much as you can within budget.

GPU: Irrelevant as long as it has atleast 4GB VRAM, preferably newer so faster VRAM. (INVENTOR IS NOT GPU ACCELERATED)

Storage: NVME SSD - 500GB or more,

 

Another point to note: Just make sure it has good cooling as it will massively kill performance.

See what is bad cooling here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3VRI-HXx9A

 

 

Depending on size, I have a family member using a Dell precision which whilst a beast is a good laptop but HP also do good systems. Just find a computer you like the look of (Size/Weight etc) and see if you can find the specs to match).

 

Final note: Core series and Xeon series at the core are the same piece of silicon, main difference goes with reliability and features. Xeons have ECC memory for data integrity and other reliability centred features. That is not to say Core series is unreliable but Xeons are made for when you need to minimize downtime at all costs. Being said that many people on the forums have no issue with Core series and saving a buck or two, but sometimes peace of mind is worth it.

 

 

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Sorry @iamerm I did see your private message about this, I now have 450ish videos on YouTube generating questions on a regular basis as well so it would consume me trying to give everyone what I would be happy to issue as a satisfactory answer.  So what I tend to do is take the questions which aren't individually unique and circumstantial, and then respond with a video which would be relevant to and apply to a wide bunch of people, your question was one of those which applies to a lot of people.

So next week I should be getting my hands on the current 'best laptop for Autodesk Inventor' as I'm going through a workstation refresh where I work, so next week I'll have this laptop and able to test it out.  But I don't particularly want to recommend it prior to seeing it for myself, especially after what happened with the Lenovo unit I recently received.

But anyway this is the one, and on paper it's one of the best spec lines for Inventor in a laptop:

HP Zbook G6 15

Intel Xeon E-2286M (8C, 5.0GHz)

32GB RAM (or whatever you need)

Nvidia Quadro RTX 3000 (or as Leo says, anything above 4GB VRAM)

SSD, Z Turbo Drive

 

I have no idea how a laptop chassis will handle the 8 cores of that Xeon but HP in my experience have been very good in the past, but I'm stopping short of passing judgement until I've seen how it does with my own eyes.  I've got a pretty good point of reference now with the Lenovo P53 that I recently tested.

 

So if you can wait a couple of weeks, I'll need to actually get familiar with the laptop and then go through the video creation process before it surfaces on YouTube, but that's coming.

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iamerm
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@leowarren34thank you very much for your input!

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@Neil_Cross  thank you very much for your input!  And you have NO need to apologize about the private message.  I assumed that I'm not the first person that's ever reached out to you.  😁

 

Another question - Intel processors seem to be specified in this manner:

Processor Base Frequency 2.60 GHz, Max Turbo Frequency 4.50 GHz

(That example is the i7-9750H)

 

If I understood one of your videos correctly, it seems that as the number of cores increases, the base frequency tends to decrease (that's my simplified version, & I think this was due to the heat that is generated).  At any rate, how much weight should be given to the base frequency vs. the max turbo frequency when it comes to Inventor performance?  It seems difficult to find processors with higher base frequencies now that they are multi-core.

 

 

 

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Well the goal posts are being moved on a regular basis regarding what "high number of cores" even means, 6 or 8 was deemed to be a high core count only a couple of years ago but since AMD stepped their game up... very soon we're getting a desktop CPU with 64 cores (ThreadRipper 3990X).  So who knows what that even means now.

But to be honest, I think that advice regarding the frequency lowering as the core count increases could soon be obsolete, it was relevant and accurate for period in time but then things change.  It's starting to become muddy now already when you look at the latest processors on the Intel Ark site, but because the highest frequency is on 8 core CPUs but 4 and 6 core CPUs still exist... it's muddy now.

Personally though I don't pay too much attention to the base frequency when specifying a PC for Inventor, I just make sure the turbo clock is good and as long as you're buying something fairly modern, the base frequency should be suitably set by intel.  Good example, the laptop I'm sat in front of right now has a i7-1065G7 CPU which turbos up to 3.9Ghz but only has a base clock of 1.3Ghz, but this thing scores around 10.5 on the bench test and is a cracking a little powerhouse.  So the base clock on something like this (Dell XP 13 2 in 1) is set low for battery efficiency, but then on mobile Xeons its set slightly higher because people tend to care less about that in mobile workstations.

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@Neil_Cross  Looking forward to the video! In reference to your last video - if anyone from Lenovo does see it hopefully will give them a kick in the right direction.

 

@iamerm The only place where I see cores affecting speed is at the server end but even then it's no where near what it is used to be like. I think higher clocks and cores is just the prosumers wanting more cores and more speed and the processors being efficient enough to handle both. A lot of consumers won't benefit from multiple cores unless they love a load of chrome tabs.

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@Neil_Cross   &  @leowarren34   thanks again. 

 

I really appreciate the "ideal" setup you recommended, but that system would be really pricey (over $4,000).  The person that this laptop is intended for is not an Inventor power user - they'll mostly use 2D AutoCAD with some occasional Inventor use.  So now I'm debating on this setup:

 

Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (12 MB Cache, 6 Core, Base Frequency 2.60 GHz, Max Turbo Frequency 4.50 GHz)

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5

32GB DDR4-2666MHz

1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD

 

If that setup seems like a genuinely bad idea, please feel free to mock me for my bad choices.  🙃

 

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@iamerm That turbo will be fine, just make sure it is well cooled so it can stretch its legs to 4.5GHz,

GPU should be fine, due to you only going to 500 parts it should be enough,

RAM and Storage look good.

Overall should be fine, just make sure the power settings aren't restricting power, you may just have to accept less time running on battery at a higher speed then more time at a lower speed.

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Just let you know how low can you go.

I use a Dell E7240 laptop.  12" touch screen.  Less then 5lb.

i7 4600U 2 Core, 4 process, 3.3GHz.  16GB RAM, 1TB SSD.

Intel HD 4400 graphic.

Inventor 2017, 2020.

Solidworks 2019, 2020.

3D Scanning, 3D printing.

 

Its not for daily use.  Home use and on the road, in the shop.

If I can open 800+ parts assembly in SW, I don't see any problem with IV 😎

Now I haven't done any simulation on it.

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s_dasDMI
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FOR Autodesk inventor 2025,

 

HP ZBook Fury 40.6 cm (16) G11

Intel® Core™ i9 14th generation processor
128 GB DDR5-5600 MT/s (4 x 32 GB)
Windows 11 Pro
40.6 cm (16) diagonal WQUXGA display with Intel® UHD Graphics
2 TB PCIe® NVMe™ TLC SSD

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iamerm
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@s_dasDMI  Is this a laptop you want to purchase?

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s_dasDMI
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yes i wanted to know if it is correct choice.

 

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iamerm
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I am NOT an expert on this, but I can share an opinion:

128 GB of RAM might be overkill - 64 GB seems reasonable

Also it looks like this laptop has integrated graphics?  A GPU (graphics card) is listed as an Inventor system requirement.  See:  https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirement...

 

Hopefully someone with more expertise than I have can weigh in.

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