Inventor gets confused which components belong to which presentation

[Bert_Bimmel]

I was struggling with some components within a presentation, that did not show up where they were supposed to appear. 

So after some erratic mouseclicking inside the presentaion environment, i decided to have a look at the information that can be drawn from the API, with special focus on the transformation matrices of the components within the source-assembly and those inside my messed up presentation. The result was this:

I really don't think, that this is correct!

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! This is likely a corruption case. Did you force the ipn file to resolve to a different iam file with the same Doc ID?

If possible, please share the files in zip here or send it to me directly johnson.shiue@autodesk.com. I would like to understand the missing component issue better.

Many thanks!

[Bert_Bimmel]

Hi Johnson,

i think, the content of one document showing up underneath another document in the API is a random event and depends on far more than only the two involved files, but rather the entire selection of open documents. Plus, I have the strong suspicion, that it has something to do with the botching of our CMS' addin upon file operations. So I'd be careful, blaming Autodesk alone for this oddity.

But what I blame Autodesk for 100%ly is the complete mess up of the presentation environment that came along with Inventor 2017 (I think it was 2017 - we jumped from 2016 to 2020)! Dear Lord, what were they thinking?

I finally managed to solve my initial problem, which made me stumble over this API-inconsictency. It just took me almost the entire afternoon, to figure out, what i am doing wrong in this insanely counterintuitive (not so) new (anymore) presentation environment.

And trying to render the original functionality of the presentation Environment unusable and hiding its Objects in the API, (i.e. in the Objects-catalog they're tagged "hidden", and the only way to access them seems to be by querying the BrowserPane-Object - i can't remember if that has been like that ever since) is not helpful!!

I'd bet 90% of all Inventor users feel absolutely no urge to create some foolish animations using the presentation environment. Their main purpose is to create exploded views and put them onto a drawing sheet to create some assembling instructions. And for this purpose, Autodesk has totally busted it! Maybe creating an exploded view from scratch somehow still works halfways, but editing it, especially after changes of the source-assembly, is a nightmare!

So please stop pushing users into something they have absolutely no use for! If some people like it - granted! But please implement an option to put things back to "normal", i.e. behaviour like pre-2017, especially - please, please please! - spare me these obnoxios storyboard-overlay-window, which I have to click away EVERY time I had a glance at the source-Assembly and return to my presentation!