Inventor 2024 bug

[kbear2AYYK]

This happens to ever PC this is installed on.
It is hard to see in this gif but when the BOM dialog stops typing until you click on the next field or hit TAB. (It shows one maybe two keystrokes but then stops updating) 

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! I must not have followed the steps correctly. I cannot seem to reproduce the PartList cell editing issue on 2024. I am wondering if other users are seeing the issue too.

Many thanks!

[kbear2AYYK]

It seems to happen when you are trying to override the default entries of a parts list. All are Windows 11 machines. One is brand new fresh install but all 4 exhibit the issue.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! If possible, please share the files in zip here or send it to me directly johnson.shiue@autodesk.com. I would like to understand the PartsList behavior better.

Many thanks!

[IgorMir]

I recon - it is a new feature. It warns you that overriding values in Parts List is a big no-no. There are other mechanisms in existence to deal with total numbers of parts in a project, which requires more than just one assembly to be built at a time. Exporting Parts List to the Excel and modify it in there is one of them. But if you insist on overriding the values manually in Inventor - my sympathy is not with you then.

Cheers,

Igor. 

[kbear2AYYK]

I emailed the zip file to you. 

[kbear2AYYK]

🙄

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@IgorMir wrote:

I recon - it is a new feature. It warns you that overriding values in Parts List is a big no-no. There are other mechanisms in existence to deal with total numbers of parts in a project, which requires more than just one assembly to be built at a time. Exporting Parts List to the Excel and modify it in there is one of them. But if you insist on overriding the values manually in Inventor - my sympathy is not with you then.

Cheers,

Igor. 

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Totally agree!

Coming from 15+ years of experience in SW, Catia and other CAD systems, I was shocked about the constant need to manually modify BOM in Inventor, if you want to meet the design deadlines.

[kbear2AYYK]

Ok you're hired! You can one man band go back through the 3500 plus files (and awful AutoCAD imports) plus the past 13 years of several different wild west CAD guys who did things how ever they want with a tight dead line. 

Easy huh!?

If it is a good idea or not... It's a bug.

That's like saying it doesn't matter your Corvette sputters if you turn your dome light and cruise control on at the same time because you should never drive with your dome light on. 

What makes CAD people become self righteous know it all's? 

[IgorMir]

Easy. I do it for breakfast every day. I clean up messes, left by previous "highly skilled and the best of the best of the best "designers"" at various companies. I am sure - I can handle yours as well.  How do I start?

Cheers,

Igor.

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@kbear2AYYK wrote:

Ok you're hired! You can one man band go back through the 3500 plus files (and awful AutoCAD imports) plus the past 13 years of several different wild west CAD guys who did things how ever they want with a tight dead line. 

Easy huh!?

If it is a good idea or not... It's a bug.

That's like saying it doesn't matter your Corvette sputters if you turn your dome light and cruise control on at the same time because you should never drive with your dome light on. 

What makes CAD people become self righteous know it all's? 

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[johnsonshiue]

Hi! Keegan did send me the files. I took a look. I can confirm the behavior. This is not file specific. It does seem like a change in behavior in PartsList editor. Somehow there is a delay on preview when more cells are overridden. It could be related to a Copy&Paste to table crash defect we fixed (in 2023.3 also). I am working with the project team to understand the behavior better.

I don't believe it is true that Inventor PartsList needs to be manually overridden constantly. The data is from the assembly BOM. If the assembly BOM is structured properly, the same data will appear in the PartsList. There are cases that the customized requirements are not fulfilled by the PartsList. However, it should be case specific.

Many thanks!

[kbear2AYYK]

Thank you for looking into this. Is it possible to make iframe parts take on individual part numbers in the components? For example, say a company makes 30 variations of nearly the same assembly. All 30 assemblies use several common parts but these are created using iframe.  This is great, however when using iframe, the BOM only shows the total amount of raw material used not a component level. 

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! If possible, maybe we should move to a different thread. Anyway, you are asking how to split the frame members in the BOM table. Inventor BOM is Part Number based BOM. When the PNs match, the components will be merged in the BOM and the quantity is tallied. To separate them, you can either set each frame with a different PN or uncheck the "Part Number Row Merge Settings" option (the button in the middle of the assembly BOM table at the top).

Many thanks!

[kbear2AYYK]

Thank you again. It is a topic for a different thread.

[Ivan_Sinicyn]

The problem exists not only in the parts list, but also in the custom table that you create to manually fill with data.

[RickyTibbits]

@kbear2AYYK I am on 2023.3 and can confirm the same behaviour. 

[Scottyos]

I hadn't installed 2023.3 but that copy paste to table crash was the bane of my existence. Glad to hear it was fixed.

I'm sure you're aware on this one but this happens in general tables as well.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! Unfortunately, it is indeed a confirmed defect on 2023.3 and 2024. It has been reported as INVGEN-68675. Hopefully it will be fixed soon.

Many thanks!