HATCH Pattern in an Assembly not 45 degs ?

HATCH Pattern in an Assembly not 45 degs ?

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HATCH Pattern in an Assembly not 45 degs ?

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Calling Inventor Gurus.....

The HATCH pattern is changing off 45 degs when more than 1 part is touching. STD is GB and

the HATCH pattern is ISO, set at 45 but changes ?? Any ideas ???

 

The Green hatching is the incorrect one and is selected, so the dialogue box is for that pattern.

 

hatch.jpg

 

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Anonymous
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Hard to tell on the screen shot but it looks like the entire view is skewed. That said, Inventor will adjust the angle of each component hatch pattern in order to avoid any two of them being aligned which would make them appear to be one component.

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UPDATE

 

Bell has gone for the school day, so time to look.

 

So I can edit the HATCH on each aprt and override the abgle so it does go to 45degs.

 

But, has anyone got a solution so I don't have to manually edit each offending Hatch ?

 

Nick

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Anonymous
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I don't understand why you would want to. If all of the hatch patterns were aligned, and the same scale, you would have trouble discerning one part from another.

 

But to answer your question, I don't think there's a way to do that without writing some code to edit the pattern angles after view generation.

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@Anonymous wrote:

Hard to tell on the screen shot but it looks like the entire view is skewed. That said, Inventor will adjust the angle of each component hatch pattern in order to avoid any two of them being aligned which would make them appear to be one component.


Thanks for the reply.

The views is not skewed, I screenshot the image.

 

It's the angle not that they are going to look aligned and the same object (part).

 

There is a bug in the BSI and GB Hatch std. It happens all the time. I'll post a screenshot of another assembly in a minute.

 

This is 2013 SP2.

 

 

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Anonymous
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Each part must have a different hatch pattern to distinguish it. So each part has a 45 degs hatch but left slanting or right slanting and doubled etc. So irespective of how many parts, we can tell they are seperate. We used to teach this with set squares on drawing boards, now Scottish kids do CAD only.

 

Here is anaother example of a sectional view, with the HATCH patterns not at 45degs, therefore not complying with stds. You can tell which parts are whcih but it does not comply wiht 45degs BS stds. And therefore fails assessment for the students. Smiley Embarassed

 

test.jpg

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I understand, one might be at 45deg another at 120.1265783 and another at 31.xxx......

 

I think the difference, since you and I learned on tables with squares, is that somone at Autodesk decided that 45deg isn't important or required within the standard. Particularly within complicated assemblies where the standard 45deg hatch would end up conflicting at some point.

 

I believe the automatic hatching is working as intended.

 

Capture.JPG

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@Anonymous wrote:

I understand, one might be at 45deg another at 120.1265783 and another at 31.xxx......

 

I think the difference, since you and I learned on tables with squares, is that somone at Autodesk decided that 45deg isn't important or required within the standard. Particularly within complicated assemblies where the standard 45deg hatch would end up conflicting at some point.

 

I believe the automatic hatching is working as intended.

 

 


It is not working as per the BS or GB std. Which is what I need for the students.

Nick

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johnsonshiue
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Hi! Nick,

 

Indeed, the hatches in multple components participating in the section view are rotated based on a list of preset values. I have to admit it is not easy to discover. Here is what you need to do.

 

0) Go to Projects dialog -> make sure Use Styles Library = Read-Write.

1) Open the IDW or DWG template of interest.

2) Go to Manage -> Styles and Standard -> Styles Editor -> General -> Preset Values -> Section Hatch Angle -> delete all of the preset values -> Save.

3) Go to Manage -> Styles and Standard -> Save -> click Yes to all -> OK.

4) Save the template file.

 

Now the template and the Styles library will not have the preset Section Hatch Angle values. The additional rotation will not happen. Let me know if it works for you.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 10 of 24

Anonymous
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Johnson,

 

Thanks for your help/advice, I'm nearly there !

 

I have tweaked the settings (never checked that drop down box) and 80% there. I have also changed the angles to 45 correct and

90degs to that, for an adjacent separate part. But, that doesn't work ! 

 

Any ideas ?

 

Nick

 

Inventor 2013 SP2 

 

hatch1.jpg

 

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Anonymous
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So, the School bell has gone, round 4.

 

I applied the semi fix and selected a Hatch,then RMB> Edit Hatch Style and changed the 'Shift' to 90degs and hey presto, one part has 'shifted',

he red circled bit below. So not what I thought. I thought it would flip and roate by 90degs.

 

 

hatch1.jpg

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@Grangemouth High D&T‏

@AutodeskHelp 2/2 So can the BS or GB STD be tweaked to stay at 45degs ? A few thousand Scottish High School youngsters will be gratetful !

 

@AutodeskHelp (the twitter admin) asked me to post up the tweets above. No pressure !

 

Nick

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johnsonshiue
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Hi! I don't think the change in Section Hatch Angles would be effective on existing drawing views. You will need to create new section views. The other thing is that if you want 45 deg and 90 deg, you will need 0 deg and 45 on the preset value list. Otherwise, they will all be 90 deg if you only have 45 deg on the list.

Let me know if more information is needed.

Thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 14 of 24

Anonymous
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Ok, been tweaking the offsets and their angles to work out what the zero ref/datum is.

Now home and feet up, back at it tomorrow !
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PaulMunford
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That's not quite correct. Here's a passage from BS 8888

 

'Standard hatching is done at 45 degrees to the principle outline of the part.'

 

I see that you've worked out how to set the default hatch orientation?
http://beinginventive.typepad.com/being-inventive/2011/07/fix-hatch-angle-in-section-view.html

 

After you've created your hatched section, you'll need to double click on each non-compliant hatch in your section view on your drawing and manually override the hatch angle.

 

Let us know how you get on 🙂

 

Paul

 

More help here:
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/understanding-inventor-hatch-angles/m-p/7832115/highli...

 

Standard practice for hatched sections.Standard practice for hatched sections.

 

 

 


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Message 16 of 24

nick.tait2HB4B
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hatch.jpgIt's adjacent parts that won't hatch at alternates but still comply to BS at 45 degs.

 

The left view 'AA' was created by Inventor and I created the 'BB' view, the right hand view, but edited each hatch areas angle to be

45degs and changed the scale to make each adjacent area unique.

 

 

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Message 17 of 24

nick.tait2HB4B
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Anyone solved this yet ?

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johnsonshiue
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Hi Nick,

 

I am sorry I must be missing something here. I thought my reply (#9 and #13) already explained the solution. If it still does not work, we may have a bug. Please share the files that exhibits the behavior. Forum experts can help take a further look.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 19 of 24

simon.bak
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@johnsonshiue I found this thread through Google and can confirm your replies (#9 and #13) solved this issue perfectly. Thanks.

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nick.tait2HB4B
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Hi, when I get home I will record a Autodesk onscreen Screencast video of what the issue is. 

 

We have 2019 at work (school) and a 45deg hatch is British std. 

 

Thanks

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