first time user needs help!

[Anonymous]

trying to create a group of threaded holes and i keep on getting an error that says "cannot open excel application"
what does it mean? how do i fix it?

remember this is my first week with this program!

gibbs

[Anonymous]

do you have excel on your system? -Joe

[Anonymous]

if you mean microsoft excel the answer is no. but what would that have to do with it anyway.

gibbs

[Anonymous]

because IV uses an excel spreadsheet for the thread data on taps and threads. the file is thread.xls. you're going to need microsoft excel on your system. someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there is a way around this. unless of course you just don't use threads or taps. -Joe

[Anonymous]

or iParts or linked or embedded spreadsheets.

I believe it says right on the system requirements that it needs it.

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"jmartzig" wrote in message news:f120769.2@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> because IV uses an excel spreadsheet for the thread data on taps and threads. the file
is thread.xls. you're going to need microsoft excel on your system. someone correct me if
i'm wrong, but i don't think there is a way around this. unless of course you just don't
use threads or taps. -Joe

[Anonymous]

Question...can IV use a different spreadsheet program other than Excel or is that hard coded into IV? If it is hard coded any ideas on why?

MechMan

[Anonymous]

Microsoft® Excel 2002 Win32 English North America CD Full Version Media: CD $339.00; Version Upgrade $109.00. I am sorry, but if I personally paid the money for IV and then was told I had to have Excel, I wouldn't have bought IV...MDT still works great, with or without Excel.

[Anonymous]

I'm 99.9% sure you are stuck with Excel. 
Excel is fired off from the ipart edit spreadsheet command and the thread file
included with Iv is an excel file.

Like it or not, Microsoft is the defacto standard
in office software...

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"MechMan" <mechman> wrote in message
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Question...can
IV use a different spreadsheet program other than Excel or is that hard coded
into IV? If it is hard coded any ideas on why?

MechMan

[Anonymous]

thanx for all the help everybody, i never would've thought that a CAD system would need a spread sheet to run but oh well. maybe i'll just stick to MDT.

gibbs

[Anonymous]

You will be doing yourself a disservice if you just stick to MDT

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Cory McConnell
BJ pipeline Inspection
"gibbs" wrote in message news:f120769.7@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> thanx for all the help everybody, i never would've thought that a CAD
system would need a spread sheet to run but oh well. maybe i'll just stick
to MDT.
> gibbs
>
>

[Anonymous]

Yes, MS is the standard but isn't a spreadsheet a spreadsheet no matter who programs it? Kind of like you can open and edit a JPG in just about any graphics program because, for the most part, a graphics program is a graphics program. Just the bells and whistles are different.

The main reason I have this question is because there are some free Office suites (Star Office for example) out there that could be a solution for some of the few that don't have or can't afford MS Office. You know, I may have just answered my own question right there. Why would it be Excel only? Because that's what MS want's. Hmmm.

MechMan

[Anonymous]

I hate to bring this up but I'm curious...does SWX have the same Excel requirement?

MechMan

[Anonymous]

from a certain site:

Can I use Lotus, Microsoft Works, or something other than
Excel for my Bill of Materials or Design ...
No. SW
supports the use of Microsoft Excel for Bill of Materials and Design Tables.

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"MechMan" <mechman> wrote in message
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I
hate to bring this up but I'm curious...does SWX have the same Excel
requirement?

MechMan

[Anonymous]

And the government was worried about Uncle Bill
conquering the world by integrating a browser in his OS.

--
Hal Gwin
Mechanical
Designer
Xenogen

[Anonymous]

Thanks Sean.

MechMan

[Anonymous]

I wonder why ADesk didn't put Excel in the Installation CD like Volo View and Internet Explorer, especially with something so critical. I could understand an issue with license or whatever if it was just VoloView (an ADesk program) on the disk. But they do include IE, a Microsoft program. What's up with that?

[Anonymous]

Because IE is free to download.  Excel is
not.  If they put it on they would have to pay license fees for Excel and
then the costs of the product would go up.  That would not be fair to those
who already had MS Office.

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I
wonder why ADesk didn't put Excel in the Installation CD like Volo View and
Internet Explorer, especially with something so critical. I could understand
an issue with license or whatever if it was just VoloView (an ADesk program)
on the disk. But they do include IE, a Microsoft program. What's up with
that?

[Anonymous]

The Excel files are *.xls like JPEG files are
*.jpg. You can open jpg files in any program that supports jpg but if the
program didn't support jpg they wouldn't work. I think that is why you have to
use Excel, there is no translator for the other file types.

~Larry

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"MechMan" <mechman> wrote in message
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Yes,
MS is the standard but isn't a spreadsheet a spreadsheet no matter who
programs it? Kind of like you can open and edit a JPG in just about any
graphics program because, for the most part, a graphics program is a graphics
program. Just the bells and whistles are different.

The main reason I have this question is because there are some free Office
suites (Star Office for example) out there that could be a solution for some
of the few that don't have or can't afford MS Office. You know, I may have
just answered my own question right there. Why would it be Excel only? Because
that's what MS want's. Hmmm.

MechMan

[Anonymous]

Ok, now it's making sense. IV is programmed to *.xls files and *.xls is a MS file extension. StarOffice (and others) use a different file extension for their spreadsheets. Autodesk can't (and shouldn't) program every possible existing spreadsheet file extension into IV.

I guess if Adesk wanted to be nice they could supply a small add-in that would change what spreadsheet file extension IV looks for but I don't see that coming (and personally don't care). I've got Office. This was all mainly to satisfy my curiosity.

Thanks for opening my eyes Larry.

MechMan

[Anonymous]

Or worse, Autodesk (the same goes for the competition) could have
elected to re-create the functionality of excel in-house, which would
have raised the price, been buggy and only a fraction as effective.

I think it was a smart move to integrate with the most commonly
available spreadsheet to do the job.

Furthermore, I really respect the fact that Autodesl are supporting
Excel versions back to '97' so that we were not forced to upgrade to
2000 then to XP.

Richard