Emboss

Emboss

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Emboss

per.widegren
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Hi Guys,

I´m having problem with the Emboss that it not breaking thru the edge.

maybe I´m using it in a wrong way...

whant to do a Pocket along the surface 0,3mm deep, works brilliant if you stay inside the surface.

 

Is there another way to do it?

 

It looks like in the picture

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JDMather
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Can you attach the actual *.ipt file here?

 

What version of Inventor are you using (including Service Pack information)?

 


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per.widegren
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Hi JD.
The sketch is going outside the edge,

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the model as well
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JDMather
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If you are attempting to add the attachment with the phone app - you will need to use web browser instead.


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johnsonshiue
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Hi! Without seeing the part, I can only guess. I would say the Emboss was created probably before a few downstream features. It is supposed to go through the edge but the downstream features hold it back. Please attach the file here to confirm.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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per.widegren
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Hi Guys,

here comes the IPT file again.

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per.widegren
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I found a workaround for this problem. But it would be good if I dont need to do that.

 

The workaround is to cut the surface where the emboss did´t got thru. then it looks like this as it should.

 

 

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Thomas_Savage
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Hello,

 

Do the Emboss before the extrude.

 

Then it will work.

 

I suppressed your extrude. Did the emboss, then did the extrude, and it worked.

 

I also suppressed the shell.

 

I have attached a print screen so you can see, and the .ipt.

 

You also needed to fully constrain the sketch. 

 

So if you do the Emboss before the Extrude it will work fine. 

 

Thomas.

 

 

emboss 1.png

 



Thomas Savage

Design Engineer


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JDMather
Consultant
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@Anonymous wrote:

I found a workaround....


@per.widegren

You could model this part much more efficiently - from the first sketch to the last feature.

If I remodel the part to demonstrate how - are you going to stick around for the solution, or are you happy with what you have?


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per.widegren
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Hello,

Yes please that could be interesting to see 🙂

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JDMather
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Well, as I started to reproduce this in a more efficient technique (not creating any Workplanes), after Sketch1, none of your sketches are fully dimensioned?  I worked out on the shop floor for 8 yrs and yet I am not familiar with making parts without dimensions.

Can you go though and add your missing size and position dimensions to all of the sketches, not just Sketch1?

Is this a school assignment?


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per.widegren
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Hi here comes the part with dimensions 🙂

 

Ye I try to learn how to design this kind of plastic parts. or in general diecast parts. in a more design looking way. Kind of.

 

 

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JDMather
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@Anonymous wrote:

Hi here comes the part with dimensions 🙂 

 


It appears to me that you simply went through and added a bunch of meaningless dimensions?

I had to put a couple of hours of work into this.

I recommend that beginners give honest effort.

 

See attached.


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per.widegren
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That was an intresting way to solve it,

Many thanks  to explane and showing how it can be done 🙂

 

Regarding the dimension, I didn´t know what you where needing to show how it could be done. so I put some litle everywhare.

Most of the time I never ever use dimension if I don´t really need it.

Those inventor work better in a mathematic way if you fully dimension your models?

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Thomas_Savage
Advisor
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Hello,

 

When don't you need a dimension?

 

You should always dimension and fully constrain your sketch.

 

Thomas.



Thomas Savage

Design Engineer


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Bill_Bogan2
Autodesk
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The concept of a fully constrained sketch sounds new to you. Here's a brief explanation of why you would want to consider constrained sketch geometry.

 

An unconstrained sketch is a little like riding a bicycle without using your hands. It can be done, but the slightest bump, rut, or shifted weight can effect your direction and cause you some level of discomfort. It is the same with unconstrained geometry.

 

A couple of the values of constrained sketches are (there are more):

  • Predictable behavior when you modify a value or relationship
  • They help reduce or prevent unexpected/unwanted changes in model shape, size, etc. 
  • You can create relationships between model defining geometry. E.g. a hole being concentric with an arc/cylindrical shape, or an embossed feature maintaining a fixed distance from an edge.

Hope this helps a little.



Bill Bogan
Principal Content Experience Designer
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PDMS-DiD-Digital Manufacturing
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 17 of 17

Paul.Normand
Alumni
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It's very important to add dimensions and constraints to your geometry so that you do not accidentally "nudge" geometry with your mouse and make an unexpected change.  Are you adding dimensions and then erasing them to clear up the display? The dimension visibility can be turned off manually (View tab>Object Visibility) and dimension visibility is automatically turned off by the system when the sketch is consumed by a feature. Sounds like you could benefit from some training.

 

Did you know that Inventor comes with many hands on tutorials that include text, video, and datasets? If you are new to 3D modeling software, I suggest checking out the tutorials found in the Learning Path (Get Started tab>Learning Path).

 

More tutorials on a variety of topics can be found in the tutorial gallery (Get Started> Tutorial Gallery)



Paul Normand
Principal Content Developer/SME
Design Lifecycle and Simulation (DLS)
Autodesk, Inc.