Diameter of a Thread

Diameter of a Thread

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Diameter of a Thread

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What is the different between the Core Diameter and Major Diameter of a Thread?

 

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Message 41 of 48

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I know  I won't be anymore.

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If you won't be anymore this is a lost to me. Try to chage your mind god will bless you. 

 

If one is doing incorrect thing it is good for a noble person to correct it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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JDMather
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@Anonymous wrote:

but as others said ...why are you needing the Min?

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It is a good question. In this posting the minor diameter is assumed 0.471 in.

 

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You should have posted this image in your original problem description.

In any case, you should have been able to use the Measure tool and look at the drawing and do the measurement and equation yourself.  Then you should have instantly (at least that is what I did) recognized that it was a common error of user input transposing digits.

But in any case, the entire discussion revealed that you have not received much (if any) instruction on thread nomenclature.

I think this might be one of the most important topics to be fully covered and understood in an engineering design curriculum.

The topic is far more than I care to cover in a forum, so I will only show how I discovered the source of the error in seconds. 

 


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Message 43 of 48

acad-caveman
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@Anonymous wrote:



Ah the internet, a source for bad info for too many years

 

 

Quote "and the minor for a .5-13 UNC-3b would be .500." If you are saying the minor diameter of 1/2-13 3B thread is .500 then you are sadly very wrong, Minor diameter for 1/2-13 3B is 0.4500 - 0.4548


Yeah well, about the bad info part ....
 
1/2-13-UNC-3B
 
Minor dia: .4170-.4284
Major dia: .500-.5159
Pitch: .4500-.4548
 
 
And as far as the topic is concerned, the reason for knowing the minor diameter of an internal thread ( or for that matter the major diameter
of an external thd ) is not necessarily important in the design phase, but it sure is important for the poor schmuck
who will actually machine the part.
It is very nice to have threaded features ( internal or external ) to represent the median dimension on the model and consequently on the
blueprint.
 
So, as a suggestion, this is what I do here ( disclaimer: I am the schmuck )
In Inventor -> Tools -> Document Settings -> Modeling -> Tapped hole diameter = Tap drill
 
Then, in the Thread.XLS file, I've edited the Tap Drill field to a formula:
(Minor Max - Minor Min) / 2 + Minor Min
 
This way the hole for any and all internal threads will be modeled and drawn to middle of the tolerance band.
 
 
 
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SBix26
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The minor diameter chosen depends partly on the material, no?  I've got a tap drill chart that shows different tap drill sizes for the same thread, and gives percentages of thread with each size-- very useful when choosing the right drill for Delrin® or aluminum or stainless steel.  Of course, if you're using a tap, the minor diameter can't be any less than the tap's minor diameter.

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Message 45 of 48

acad-caveman
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@sbixler wrote:

The minor diameter chosen depends partly on the material, no?  I've got a tap drill chart that shows different tap drill sizes for the same thread, and gives percentages of thread with each size-- very useful when choosing the right drill for Delrin® or aluminum or stainless steel.  Of course, if you're using a tap, the minor diameter can't be any less than the tap's minor diameter.

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Not really.
The minor diameter is controlled by the specification and that's all there is to it. It has a minimum and maximum value just like any other feature tolerance.
The fact that some materials may require a different drill to arrive at a hole size to fall within the specification is irrelevant

 In the OP's case the thread is specified as a UNC-3B, which means exactly the dimensions stated earlier with regard to minor, major and pitch diameters.

 

Yes, there are charts that show various thread percentages for a given hole size, but to date ( thankfully ) I have never seen a thread callout as a X% thread engagement.

 

Of course there are cases where the design requires a tighter or looser thread other than the standard specification, but those are designated as a UNS, and each out-of-norm feature of the thread must be clearly specified on the print/CAD file.

 


 

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Message 46 of 48

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Yeah well, about the bad info part ....
 
1/2-13-UNC-3B
 
Minor dia: .4170-.4284
Major dia: .500-.5159
Pitch: .4500-.4548
 
 
 
 

DOHHHHH didn't look close enough  LOL

 

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SBix26
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And, while we're clarifying, that's the pitch diameter (.4500 – .4548); the pitch is 1/13" = .0769

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Message 48 of 48

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In your video in post42 minor diameter 0.417 inch is measured only after creating the hole. Before creating hole how to know the minor diameter of the thread? Is it from the table?

 

I did that in a way I didn’t know whether it was correct or not. First I created a hole without chamfer and I measured minor diameter of the hole then I went to edit mode and add additional feature chamfer.

 

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