Change an .iam file to a .ipt

Change an .iam file to a .ipt

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Change an .iam file to a .ipt

Anonymous
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Does anyone know how to do this? Im having a lot of trouble because I finished designing a piston and I cant seem to get it to stick together in assembly and I cant get it out of assembly! Help

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mcgyvr
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@Anonymous wrote:

Does anyone know how to do this? Im having a lot of trouble because I finished designing a piston and I cant seem to get it to stick together in assembly and I cant get it out of assembly! Help


huh???

An iam is simply a collection of ipt files?

By "stick" do you mean "constrain"? which is how you assemble the parts in the iam file so they fit like they would in real life?

 

Go to file..save as and select pack and go and post that zip file and we can help you..

 

But you should be able to simply right click on the ipt and select "open" to open its associated ipt file or just open it by itself..

 



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jhackney1972
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If you want to create an IPT from an Inventor assembly file, just create a new part file and use the "Derive" command to derive an assembly into it.  Be sure to keep your assembly, you will probably not like the derive results.

 

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Cadmanto
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Couple different methods to do this.

First, export out your assembly as a step file.  Then inport it in as a part.  It will come in as a dumb solid though.

 

Second, derived part.

 part.png

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018...

 


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mcgyvr
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Based on some of your other posts I'm going to say that lack of proper training/program knowledge is hurting you here so its VERY important that you clearly communicate details to us so that we can direct you down the proper path..

I really doubt that you would want to convert an iam to an ipt file.. There are ways as shown above but I really don't think thats what you should be doing..

 

I'm going to keep assuming you are working on this cylinder head and have completed the piston..

The piston head should be one part (ipt file), each ring should be an ipt file, wrist pin is one ipt file, rod is one ipt file, rod end is one ipt file, rod bolts are one ipt file, rod bushing top is one ipt file, rod bushing bottom is on ipt file.

All of them should be assembled/constrained in an iam file to make a piston rod assembly and so on..

 

Inventor should follow the real world... In the real world those are all individual parts and in Inventor they should be the same.. A cylinder head is an assembly of parts and should be in Inventor too..

 

Attempting to run before you learn to walk in Inventor while it may be gratifying to start its only going to lead to failure/disappointment.. 

Its a professional program and requires a professional level of learning.. Don't try to run before you learn to walk or expect to bruise your face Smiley Tongue

 

Its the weekend though (20 minutes till Beer:thirty here) so I'm outta here... and will be back Monday..

 



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Anonymous
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Wait, now how do I combine it all into 1?

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TheCADWhisperer
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STOP! Stop whatever you are doing and follow @mcgyvr advice to Attach your file(s) here.

Ignore any other advice/techniques presented in this thread.

There is no way that Deriving an assembly into a part is the correct solution.

That might be the answer to the question that you asked - but you are asking the wrong questions.

Again, ignore all other responses.

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jhackney1972
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If you are asking "How to create a Inventor Part from an Inventor Assembly" then the screencast will show you this process.  There is a lot of discussion about using this process to "Hold an assembly together".  The process I am showing is NOT the best method to create a functional assembly that can be then included as a sub-assembly in another assembly.  A derived part is just that, a solid part.  It cannot be driven or cannot move is any fashion.  You say you are making a piston, pistons move and flex in an engine.  A derived part cannot be used in this way.

Derived assemblies are often used to send a "representation" of an assembly to a customer for approval.  It is a way of preserving intellectual rights to the design.  In fact, one of the assembly "Level of Detail" processes uses the derive process in making substitute parts.

 

 

 

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chris54
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A "Piston" should be one ipt file.  If you have a piston, and rigs, and bearings, and a connecting rod (or piston rod); then you should have an assembly.  You will use Inventor CONSTRAINTS to hold this together.

 

If you truly need just the piston, then you have issues with your modeling.  That should not be modeled as several parts, and then assembled (or derived) into one.  Posting your model will be a big help. 

 

Good luck!

 

Chris

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johnsonshiue
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Hi! The trouble you are having seems to be related to constraining components. It depends on what you want to do actually. If you want to have a fully functional assembly simulating the motion, you will definitely need an assembly. However, if you only care about geometry creation, it does not really matter where you create the geometry. You could create each part as an ipt file and assemble them together. Or, you can create each part as a solid body in an ipt file. Then push each solid body as a part into an assembly.

Anyway, it sounds like the issue is with how the components are constrained, not how to create the geometry. Please share what you have so far and forum experts can comment further.

Many thanks!



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TheCADWhisperer
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@Anonymous

 

Where did you go?

I think you were getting some misleading advice because your design questions were spread across several threads.

I see the terms piston, cylinder, cylinder head, rings....

Do you have some source design information that you are trying to reproduce?
If you don't get this right - I am afraid that you are going to have a difficult road to travel using Inventor.

All of this is very easy, but you must get the best advice/instruction to build a strong modeling foundation.

If you can Attach your *.ipt files and any source information (dimensioned drawings?) that you have - I am sure someone will create videos that will significantly strengthen your modeling techniques.

Message 12 of 15

Anonymous
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Ok, Sorry, I have recently been getting a few computer problems but here's the file that when I try to save as a part I cannot because it is "Read Only" And its not my file

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TheCADWhisperer
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An assembly file *.iam is only a list of links to the part files *.ipt and instructions on how to put them together.

Without the *.ipt files, the assembly file is useless.

Attach all part files here.

 

Assembly Missing PartsAssembly Missing Parts

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Anonymous
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Here are the .ipt files

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Anonymous
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It seems only the Piston Dome works and I can change the material of

 

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