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Revit for everybody!

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Mensaje 1 de 14
Anonymous
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Revit for everybody!

Revit's current license scheme creates a huge entrance hurdle for a large number of architects on their way to familiarize themselves with the current state of technology.  A research/education license scheme for everybody would help to overcome this hurdle - while it might boost the dissemination and, on a larger time scale, even the state of development of Revit as well.

 

A more suitable approach in my opinion would be to base the license fee on the actual income made with the aid of Revit rather than to make the license fee the same for everybody. Currently a large company busily working on huge industrial projects pays the same amount of money as an architect out of work trying to catch up with the technological state of the art in order to improve his chances on the job market or a retired architect or pupil who would like to follow his passion and use Revit to model the architectural heritage or possible future of his favorite town.

 

A complex software like Revit is very expensive to develop and to maintain. Rather than on the individual license fee the income, however, depends on the size of the user base. A different license scheme therefore could have a positive influence on the amount of money available for the further development of Revit as well.

 

I know, this is a very controversial topic - and this is probably not the place intended for this kind of discussion :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

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Mensaje 2 de 14
RobDraw
en respuesta a: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

I know, this is a very controversial topic - and this is probably not the place intended for this kind of discussion :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 


But you just had to get on your soap box and post it anyway?


Rob

Drafting is a breeze and Revit doesn't always work the way you think it should.
Mensaje 3 de 14
Matt__W
en respuesta a: Anonymous

For what it's worth, there is a student version that's free.

https://www.autodesk.com/education/free-software/revit

 

Also, you could join the beta team and get to test out the latest that's in development which would help keep you up to speed while not requiring a subscription. I certainly wouldn't use a beta version for anything other than what it's intended for, but in a way you get access to a "free" version of the software. And at the same time, you could also contribute your thoughts to the beta discussion groups to help make the product better.



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Mensaje 4 de 14
RobDraw
en respuesta a: Anonymous

The basis of your theory is wrong. That large company has to buy a large number of licenses compared to that architect who may only need one.


Rob

Drafting is a breeze and Revit doesn't always work the way you think it should.
Mensaje 5 de 14
dgorsman
en respuesta a: RobDraw

Indeed.  Our own licensing renewal budget is eye-opening...

 

And how exactly would Autodesk confirm how much "income" is being earned?  Take their word for it?

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Mensaje 6 de 14
Matt__W
en respuesta a: dgorsman

What if you lose money? Does Autodesk then pay YOU?  :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:



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Mensaje 7 de 14
dgorsman
en respuesta a: Matt__W


@Matt__W wrote:

What if you lose money? Does Autodesk then pay YOU?  :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa: 


Emoticono riéndose a carcajadas  Good point.  I was trying not to be *too* snarky about it.

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Mensaje 8 de 14
RobDraw
en respuesta a: Matt__W

Woo hoo! Bonus from Autodesk!


Rob

Drafting is a breeze and Revit doesn't always work the way you think it should.
Mensaje 9 de 14
Anonymous
en respuesta a: RobDraw

But you just had to get on your soap box and post it anyway?

 

Yes, I had to :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

Mensaje 10 de 14
Anonymous
en respuesta a: Matt__W

Hi Matt, 

 

Thank you very much for your positive approach and your helpful ideas!

 

Unfortunately I am currently neither a student nor a researcher.  When applying for a "student" version you have to be involved with a university, so this is (currently) no option in my case (and no solution for lots of others in simular situations).

 

 

I had the opportunity to be part of the testing group for DesignScript (now Dynamo).  But the testing period is over - and it seems to be pretty difficult to become a member of the Revit beta team (or maybe I just did not find the right information?).  Also I am interested in a solution for all the other people in a similar situation as well - who would like to use Revit for enhancing their skill set by private study, for personal (research) projects - or even just for the fun of experimenting with the latest tools :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

Anyway, thank you very much for taking me serious rather than ranting at me :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

All the best,

 

Dietrich

Mensaje 11 de 14
Anonymous
en respuesta a: RobDraw

The basis of your theory is wrong. That large company has to buy a large number of licenses compared to that architect who may only need one.

 

This is not the basis of my theory.  The basis of my theory is that the current license scheme makes it difficult to enter the world of Revit for people out of university and research - and that there might be solutions to this, which are good for Autocad and those potential users.

 

I originally published this in the IDEA sections - and it was moved to the architecture group by the administrator.  This is just an IDEA - it might be thrown away - or lead to something more positive.  That's how ideas work...

 

 

Mensaje 12 de 14
Anonymous
en respuesta a: Matt__W

> What if you lose money? Does Autodesk then pay YOU?  :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

That would be another solution :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

Mensaje 13 de 14
Anonymous
en respuesta a: dgorsman

> And how exactly would Autodesk confirm how much "income" is being earned?  Take their word for it?

Trusting the users?

I think this question applies to the current situation as well:  for users related to academia there are no fees - but this doesn't mean that Revit has no income.  The purpose of this regulation rather is to earn more money, not less :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

If the license doesn't allow the use of Revit in commercial projects I suppose that people wouldn't go through the risk to use a private install for commercial projects.

There are lots of successful companies with similar approaches:

  - https://store.unity.com/
  - https://www.juce.com/get-juce

  - https://www.cryengine.com/

In the software world there are the "dual-licensing" schemes:

  - Dual-Licensing As A Business Model
    http://oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/duallicence2

  - Multi-licensing
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-licensing

The number of possible business models is huge - and the purpose of most of them is not to have less income - but more.  Having a large user base often means to earn more money, not less, even if people on an individual base pay less - and some of them nothing at all.

Cheers, Dietrich
Mensaje 14 de 14
Anonymous
en respuesta a: Anonymous

Anyway - I see that there is not much enthusiasm for my idea.

 

So before more people get angry about me I promise to stop writing further emails :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

As some people took the time to write an answer, however, I thought it to be my obligation to do the same.

 

So long...

 

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