Suspected phishing/scam

Suspected phishing/scam

jgraman5020
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Suspected phishing/scam

jgraman5020
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I got an email from someone saying they are from Autodesk and they accused us of violating our licensing agreement.  I am trying to see if anyone knows the official process from Autodesk to contact someone suspected of overusing AutoCAD licenses.  Before I dig into the potential violation, I want to make sure this is not a scam.  Thanks

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Message 21 of 35

cadffm
Consultant
Consultant

I hope so for you, otherwise you will have to pay the price for your failure,
you're welcome to ask your lawyer.

But first of all: contact Autodesk and clarify it beforehand.

What's so difficult about that?

Sebastian

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Message 22 of 35

pendean
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Community Legend

@shanewang7LSSX wrote:

We appreciate that you’re probably busy, but we need your help to resolve some potential issues with your Autodesk products.

 

We believe that [company name’s] use of Autodesk products may not comply with the Autodesk Terms of Use (TOU).  To resolve the issue, wherever there is a license shortfall in your account, or we find a noncompliance, you will need to purchase the equivalent of a 3-year subscription for that product.   This means you will need to purchase new products with the minimum value of [$8379] by [2/09/2023]. 

 

Please let me know if you plan to resolve this through our eStore, or with a partner, and how I can assist in this process.  

 

Renewal Doesnt need $8379!! This is obviously a Scam! 


Sadly, it's not a scam if you can get out of licensing trouble by purchasing from the ESTORE or a PARTNER as directed. Your company is about to get buried in legal action in the courts. Ask your legal counsel and accountant for advice ASAP.

 

Get informed https://www.autodesk.com/genuine/license-compliance
https://www.autodesk.com/genuine/frequently-asked-questions 

 

 

Best of luck.

Message 23 of 35

cadffm
Consultant
Consultant

"Renewal Doesnt need $8379"

That's right, but it isn't for renewal of your legal seats/license, it is for all other usage (if true)

 

Ask Autodesk, then your Lawyer

Sebastian

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Message 24 of 35

anusingh12
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Explorer

how did you handle ? im also facing the same .. call from an lawyer . 

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Message 25 of 35

anusingh12
Explorer
Explorer
im also facing the same problem? how did u handle this
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Message 26 of 35

anusingh12
Explorer
Explorer

i also getting this letters. how did you handle this

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Message 27 of 35

jeffpTQTUW
Participant
Participant

This is being handled unprofessionally.  AutoDesk needs to realize that they are paying a team of attorneys to inefficiently badger customers.  It's nearly impossible to tell whether the e-mails sent are real or a phishing scam.  They are so bad that it almost seems deliberate.  All AutoDesk needs to do is send a notification to your account (here, where you log in) and then we would be able to tell if it's real.  Why is that so hard?  Customer support sent me an email stating that my account was in good standing with no issues, while their attack team was threatening me for not acting on their suspicious e-mail.  None of the people who were on the e-mail thread were available by any means other than responding to the very questionable e-mail. 

 

I had my attorney track down one of their attorneys (on the e-mail thread) through the Texas Bar Association which actually listed her mobile phone.  He called her and when she answered, what do you know....she questioned whether he was for real!  

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Message 28 of 35

pendean
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Community Legend

@anusingh12 wrote:
im also facing the same problem? how did u handle this

Reach out to your legal counsel (aka company lawyer) to address/deal with it.

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Message 29 of 35

lastreaction17
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Explorer

@jgraman5020 wrote:

I got an email from someone saying they are from Autodesk and they accused us of violating our licensing agreement.  I am trying to see if anyone knows the official process from Autodesk to contact someone suspected of overusing AutoCAD licenses.  Before I dig into the potential violation, I want to make sure this is not a scam.  Thanks


I was also getting these scam mails stating autodesk license violation and even scam calls on my number. I don't know its because of autodesk or not but there were tons of scam calls on my number but someone referred a website to me that allows you to find out who is calling you by using its search bar. You just have to put the number on it and click search. You can use their service who called me to report them.

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Message 30 of 35

rumsfulzele001
Observer
Observer

brother, i am facing a same problem like you and some of the paragraphs in your received email matches the exact wordings of my the mail i received from them, so was it a scam or not, please reply as soon as possible 

below i have mentioned the link of the screenshots of the mail:

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/could-it-be-a-possible-scam/m-p/12683214#M1127965

Message 31 of 35

Valentin_CAD
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@rumsfulzele001 ,

 

Read message 3 from the link:



Select the "Mark as Solution" if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

Seleccione "Marcar como solución" si mi publicación resuelve o responde a su pregunta.


Emilio Valentin

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Message 32 of 35

gseverini
Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Jo,  i got an email saying my subscription has cancelled from the following email address. [email protected]

Is this legitimate. I have autopsy set.

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Message 33 of 35

infoVHSL5
Community Visitor
Community Visitor

We have been seeing this during the second quarter of every year, which I suspect is either driven by vendors or by the employee's pressure to meet the sales targets. It generally starts with compliance-related mail and soon turns into negotiating and forcing license purchases. Our attempt has always been to resolve compliance issues, and we always request additional data based on which action can be taken. The pattern has always been the same: when you ask for additional information, they will threaten, saying that the same is confidential and will be produced in court if that's the route we wish to take. It's a classic arm-twisting strategy: we either procure licenses accepting without asking any questions, or they threaten with legal actions. They add a legal firm to the mail chain, who then starts sending mail on the client's behalf, threatening with legal action and passing remarks as though we have no chance at defending ourselves and that the whole process will be very expensive for us, which I feel is in a way threatening and harassment. As a firm that believes in compliance, we do not mind adding additional licenses as needed. However, procuring licenses based on these threats and accusations would only prove that we are non-compliant and tarnish our reputation, which hurts. I believe that if any concerns are genuine and need to be corrected, they can be done in an amicable manner. I believe that despite all the measures, lapses may happen. But it's important to address the lapses by either making the software and licensing foolproof or educating the firms by working with them to avoid the same. I am sure the brand has good ethical practices to ensure their paid customers are not harassed. But, I suspect that some employees have their vested interests and use this as a tool to benefit themselves. I sincerely hope that an internal enquiry can be initiated to investigate this and implement systems that do not harass but work with customers to help them stay compliant. Several other firms have faced similar harassment, which I suspect is more prevalent in India. 

 

In the current case, an employee from the software vendor raised an issue concerning the overuse of the license. They contend that they have counted the licenses used by 11 Windows users and that we have only 3 licenses.

 

We have a total of 12 Licenses in the period, which we assume is when the issue was highlighted. We requested that they share the period during which the issue was noted so that we could verify, but they denied it, saying that the data is confidential and can be produced only in court. The team did not even check whether the number of licenses we mentioned was correct. In addition, the license terms says that:

 

"Your Authorized User may concurrently use only one (1) Desktop Device and one (1) Mobile Device at a time to access the Software. For any Collection, Your Authorized User may concurrently use any Software titles in the Collection, but they may use only one (1) Desktop Device and one (1) Mobile Device at a time to do so."

 

It does not mention anything about Windows Users, the need for a unique device, or the fact that a license cannot be used on another device.

 

PS: License terms as provided on the website (https://www.autodesk.com/company/terms-of-use/en/offering-types-and-benefits)"

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Message 34 of 35

topa3d
Contributor
Contributor

It looks as if Autodesk has implemented a licensing feature in their software now which indicates whether your subscription is active or not. This is a huge improvement. Before this feature, users were allowed to open their software without a license and were penalized for doing so without knowing they were being penalized. 

This new feature may solve many of the frustrations on this thread.

Sorry so many users were affected by this issue -

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Message 35 of 35

drewTK59B
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Community Visitor

I had gotten a legitimate request last year for verification of our installed software that was verified as Autodesk... but now I am getting emails saying our license is just noncompliant, and I MUST review the attachment to see what I did wrong and uninstall any current software and purchase a new subscription of AutoCAD for 3 years @ $6,285, when we only have AutoCAD LT and use it maybe once a month.

 

I told this supposed Autodesk employee if they cannot see we have an active subscription on their end, then I don't know what extra information they think they'll get from me.

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